The ''highest skill cap champ'' has a 52.88% win rate and 32.25% Play rate

Rivuo·Dec 2, 2016·3 votes·866 views

I thought id like to remind you guys.

Im talking about vayne.

15 Comments

Dominick DestineDec 2, 20163 votes

Lee sin is faceroll easy to play.

Anyone that thinks otherwise is a [Insert word that is not acceptable by the tyrannical moderators] [Inb4 moderators (Ironically) declare "tyrannical" to be a 'naughty word']

Jax CramerDec 2, 20163 votes

Vayne is pretty easy tbh.

PermabannedGarenDec 2, 20161 votes

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I thought id like to remind you guys.

http://champion.gg/champion/LeeSin/Jungle

No he doesn't.

RivuoDec 2, 20161 votes

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http://champion.gg/champion/LeeSin/Jungle

No he doesn't.

Talking about vayne.

PermabannedGarenDec 2, 20161 votes

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Talking about vayne.

I have literally never once in my entire time playing League heard anyone refer to Vayne as the highest skill champion in League.

In fact, I've never heard anyone say that she was the highest skill ADC. That pretty much unanimously goes to Draven.

RivuoDec 2, 20161 votes

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I have literally never once in my entire time playing League heard anyone refer to Vayne as the highest skill champion in League.

In fact, I've never heard anyone say that she was the highest skill ADC. That pretty much unanimously goes to Draven.

Prob not the highest, but vayne is talked about a lot as a ''high'' skill cap champ

Either way i was being sarcastic

But i dont think anyone can disagree that a 33% playrate and a 53% win rate is healthy in any shape or form.

PermabannedGarenDec 2, 20161 votes

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Prob not the highest, but vayne is talked about a lot as a ''high'' skill cap champ

Either way i was being sarcastic

But i dont think anyone can disagree that a 33% playrate and a 53% win rate is healthy in any shape or form.

Play rate only matters in the sense that "it must be this high for data to be relevant".

She could have a 100% play rate and it wouldn't matter. This just means that her data is very accurate.

Now, yes, she is overpowered right now, which is easy to see by her playerbase becoming less experienced on average (her players used to average over 125 games, now it's 90), and the fact that even noob Vaynes have a 53% win rate (this more than anything is a telltale sign of a high skillcap champion being too strong).

RogueWillDec 2, 20161 votes

second goes to vayne and prob kalista third. She may be not the highest skill cap but we can agree she is supposed to be "high skill cap" so when her pick rate rises her winrate is supposed to decrease.

Face The LewdDec 2, 20161 votes

skill cap has nothing to do with skillfloor

BIackfoxDec 2, 20161 votes

Lol Isn't this the same guy bragging about his diamond account he bought on eBay?

RivuoDec 2, 20161 votes

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Lol Isn't this the same guy bragging about his diamond account he bought on eBay?

I dont think i'm going to argue with someone named ''Sorakas tits''

goodluck ma dude

MarshbouyDec 2, 20161 votes

Skill cap and skill floor are different. different

RivuoDec 2, 20162 votes

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Skill cap and skill floor are different. different

If a champ has a 32% playrate+ and a 52% winrate in under plat then there is no difference

Mysticman89Dec 2, 20161 votes

I'm not convinced you know what those terms mean then.

Vayne has an exceptionally high skill cap. A couple of patches ago, her skillfloor changed somewhat however, and now she's relatively easy to pick up and build as a q crit burst monster. Prior to that, the only really viable option was building as an AS/lifesteal DPS machine that relied on outplay and sustained damage, and surviving long enough to do so made trying to pick up vayne and be effective rather difficult.

Most vaynes currently are still a long way from the skill cap, and while they're still effective, they're not that hard to kill if you can get past the wtf burst (and so I'd suggest that most vaynes currently would lose a 2v1 fight). Vayne gods near the skillcap however are still capable of all their outplay mechanics, and potentially still have crazy burst, making them 1v5ing a very real possibility.

In any case, vayne has nerfs to her Q on PBE last I heard, that'll basically bring her damage back to what it was before her Q buff, and we should be back to the old days of vayne only being terrifying in the hands of people who've put in plenty of time on her.

MarshbouyDec 2, 20161 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/ob02y8ic-skill-capskill-floor This applies in equal effect to vayne.