Am I the only one who still cares about Ryze? he was my first champ when i played this game in season 1 but after the reworks i deem him unplayable, while he did have pro play I find him boring and less unique with all the q skill shot changes and tp ult...
Dokkaebi1 votesIt's ironic how the rework was supposed to make his position better and healthier,
but it completely ruined him.
Death by Glamour1 votesWell it is about that time of year for his annual rework... maybe this time they will remove his point and click root
TehNACHO1 votesActually, read again. Op didn't like that they changed his Q to a skillshot, he probably doesn't want the Root to change either then.
Death by Glamour1 votesThe root is the reason they have to continually nerf he reworked form
Hela1 votesi loved everything about old ryze, they only had to nerf his mana ratios. They over changed him even indirectly. Banshees veil used to have mana on it which he could build to counter mages in the mid lane, once they removed that it was a indirect nerf to his midlane against mages. His old ult gave him flat mana and aoe clearing which made him super fun in team fights, again they could of nerfed his dmg to keep him the same. Now we have people with nuke q's that go through minions such as ahri and orianna, ryze cant lane well and his q skill shot made it harder and its too huge of counter play. With the new item 
Its even more of a indirect nerf to him lol, you see where im going with this now? old ryze would be fine now.
TehNACHO1 votesA little vague here, and somewhat odd.
For example, the Q skillshot change adds a dimension of counterplay and depth to playing with him. At the very least that's far better than being a point and click ability, unless you are specifically talking about something else they changed about his Q.
Furthermore, his new Ult is far more interesting than previous iterations. AOE effects are cool and all, but pressing your ultimate ability just for a stat buff is kinda...lame.
Hela1 votesA little vague here, and somewhat odd.
For example, the Q skillshot change adds a dimension of counterplay and depth to playing with him. At the very least that's far better than being a point and click ability, unless you are specifically talking about something else they changed about his Q.
Furthermore, his new Ult is far more interesting than previous iterations. AOE effects are cool and all, but pressing your ultimate ability just for a stat buff is kinda...lame.
then why isnt annies q point and click? her overall kit burst is more stronger than his, ryze was the only mage machine gun caster there was which is what made him fun to me, he was pretty immobile when it came to the old ryze due to him having to stand still to burst, i understand his burst was strong but that was to compensate for his poor early game, they could of just easily nerfed his mana ratio or something instead of reworking a completely fine champ...
TehNACHO1 votesthen why isnt annies q point and click?
Because she was made in the same era as Ryze and never received the major overhaul reworks that Ryze had.
Let me turn your own argument against you. Her kit has been polarizing for the longest time, and only recently has been toned down now that more champs can handle her flash R combo. Because both of us can recognize these elements of her kit as bad, why do you want Ryze's design to go back to how she's designed?
See the thing you have to understand now is that it's not just about balance. We can balance any champion by dumpstering their stats one way or another, but if they are that polarizing broken messes like old Poppy, ESPECIALLY old Poppy, isn't it better game design to just remove these horribly toxic older elements of game design with newer updated parts?
Hela1 voteswhat was bad about old ryze? the fact his q was point and click? who cares, pantheons q is point and click, kassadins q is point and click. we dont need a bunch of skill shots. old ryze kit worked far more than it does now and there are more champs in the game that can counter that playstyle now along with . It didnt change the fact he was still immobile and with the changes to tanky mana items he wouldnt even be as impossible to kill as he was before. I would rather his w be a skill shot or more like xerath w to snare instead. targetable cc is the problem not targetable dmg.