On removing Bandit.

rtbf225618241··3 votes·614 views

> We’ve got changes today that remove the Bandit mechanic (both the gold on minion death and gold on attack) from the support item chains. We’re simplifying the support items, pushing more gold into the skill expressive minigames, and hopefully reducing poaching of the items.

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Why? What the hell? What minigames? There is no skill involved in anything in the Enchanter role for example or a Mage-as-Support role, in terms of interacting with items.

As an example, one of the main skill requirements for someone like Janna was that you went into basic attack range and commited to basic attacking the opponent in order to rack up a few hundred extra gold per every game. It takes skill and has a lot of risk involved in many matchups (i remember you increased her basic attack range though for some reason even though she never needed it. Correct me if wrong).

Bandit is something that as far as i can remember, triggers on basic attacks. In what Season wasn't a Support hitting you with basic attacks not under threat? Please explain.

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Crimson Anam1 votes

Do not remove bandit from support items, Riot. It is one of the more interactive features in the game that encourages engagement and a less passive play style, even for other lanes. Removing it would in fact result in a more passive play style which you claim that removing bandit is for (essentially it has the opposite impact).

leakinb1 votes

But when Bandit exists, the laners are going to abuse this item especially for keplto users 3 or 10 gold per hit + 1 gold per cs missed + passive generation makes current support items abusable

rtbf2256182411 votes

Klepto should disable Bandit then not the other way around just so Klepto can exist. It's a shit design imo, overall.

ShiniXII1 votes

DUDE UR RIGHT ITS SO SKILLFUL TO PLAY JANNA AND AUTO ATTACK PEOPLE, HER MOVEMENTSPEED BARELY ALOLWS HER TO ESCAPE FROM THE DANGEROUS ENEMIES! INNATE: Janna passively gains 8% bonus Movement speed icon movement speed and grants the same amount to nearby allied champions moving towards her. Janna's basic attacks and Zephyr Zephyr deal bonus on-hit magic damage equal to 15% / 25% / 35% of her bonus Movement speed icon movement speed. BONUS MOVEMENT SPEED: 6 / 7 / 8 / 9 / 10% (+ 2% per 100 AP) I WISH I COULD BE AS SKILLFUL AS JANNA PLAYERS! SLOW: 24 / 28 / 32 / 36 / 40% (+ 6% per 100 AP) TRULY A SKILLFUL MATCHUP!

rtbf2256182411 votes

Considering how easy it is to kill Janna when caught out and how unskilled most Janna players are due to her ease of usage, if you know how to play around her she becomes free food for your team. Not to mention people almost never basic attack out of being too scared.

I can bring any other ranged champion as an example too and you can still use babyrage to make it sound like it's op. I can make fucking Aatrox sound op by your caps-lock logic.

ShiniXII1 votes

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Considering how easy it is to kill Janna when caught out and how unskilled most Janna players are due to her ease of usage, if you know how to play around her she becomes free food for your team. Not to mention people almost never basic attack out of being too scared.

I can bring any other ranged champion as an example too and you can still use babyrage to make it sound like it's op. I can make fucking Aatrox sound op by your caps-lock logic.

im sorry what? ur saying that janna can do exactly as I said above, walk up to me, auto attack me and before I can react she runs away, but im playing against retards so it doesn't matter?

rtbf2256182411 votes

No i'm saying you're just bad if you can't punish her for such a cheap move. She needs to stop and finish an animation to hit you in the first place before obviously moving in position to do that. League is a game of predictability not stat-checking like it used to be.

ShiniXII1 votes

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No i'm saying you're just bad if you can't punish her for such a cheap move. She needs to stop and finish an animation to hit you in the first place before obviously moving in position to do that. League is a game of predictability not stat-checking like it used to be.

ok im in the middle of animation auto attacking a minion, about to lasthit him. janna walks up to me with 361 movement speed level 1 no boots and hits me with an auto attack before I can even throw an attack back she is outta range?

rtbf2256182411 votes

What the fuck are you talking about? Are you going to discuss base attack speeds, movement speeds and animation cancels? Because i've never run into a problem like this before, nor would ANY Janna player, myself included, consistently harass to an extent with basic attacks that it becomes a real threat. It's nothing more than bonus gold that you risk dying for. As far as i'm concerned you have no clue how to even basic attack trade and you're using that as an excuse? You're obviously not in Masters where people actually use farming as a means to punish you so don't even bring that tactic up, i've seen it so rarely even in solo lanes from Silver to Diamond.

ShiniXII1 votes

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rtbf2256182411 votes

Great job. You just gave yourself a strike on the Boards with that downgraded retaliation.

Draehl1 votes

Not a fan TBH. Hope they buff klepto then. I enjoy the more active laning phase. Especially if it's into a lane where you're unlikely to land a kill. Something to do to be productive if there's nothing else to do.

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