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Why Are Safe Assassins Allowed To Stay The Way They Are?

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Unsafe Assassins

Shaco failed assassination: Dies or takes considerable damage, or Q's away if he manages to survive that long.

Khazix failed assassination: Dies or takes considerable damage.

Talon failed assassination: At the very least his ult is put on cooldown, but he'll probably die because his gap closer is a one way trip.

Safe Assassins

Ahri failed assassination: Oops, I missed my charm, better wait until its off cd so I can try again, but in the meantime I'll chunk half their health with my Q while staying so far away from them they can't attack me, and if they do I'll run half the map away with my ult.

Leblanc failed assassination: I'll damage and mark them with my point and click Q, and then hit them with my instant aoe W procing the mark, and if they're not dead I'll use my low cooldown no cost ult and maybe ignite. Wait, how do you fail assassinating someone with this champ?

Zed failed assassination: I'll poke them down from half a screen away under my tower and then go in on them with my ult, then immediately blink back to under my tower. Damn they didn't die, I'll just keep farming from under my tower.

Fizz failed assassination: Ult, W, Q, and if they don't die and can fight back I'll E away.

Ekko failed assassination: I'll poke them down with Q and then go in with W and E, and if I somehow fuck this up I'll press R.

10 Comments

DJ Katarina2 votes

Katarina Not even mentioned because she couldn't sustain through lane phase.

63536895_DEL1 votes

Just didn't feel like doing it for every assassin.

Edge of Daybreak2 votes

LoL poking someone with ekkos Q man that's a nice meme. Anyway minus leblanc you can dodge a few of the safe assassins. Half of ahri's skills are dodgeable. She isnt going to just 100-0 you unless she is fed and hits everything. Ekko literally has his passive and E. The rest is dodgeable and simple to dodge anyway. God bless Tank ekko cause AP ekko still isnt that great in lane heck we found every way possible to avoid playing it. Zed. Literally just the ult being countered by items and I guess CC. That's all I got there. F Zed. He's annoying but I wouldnt want him to go away. Fizz. dodge shark save a life. His E is definitely not getting him away from some of these tanks nowadays.

The guys you listed as unsafe have one thing in common. Their main damage isn't really dodge able. Talon especially. Also stealth is a terrible thing to try to balance and they all have it.

63536895_DEL1 votes

Ahri charms are like Blitz grab, you can dodge 95% of them but the 1 in 20 that hits will be your death. Guess you haven't heard about the item 3140 change yet and item 3157 active cd getting nerfed. Can't really dodge the shark unless you have mobility, if you dodge it without mobility then the fizz probably whiffed it to begin with. Plot twist, Fizz is a tank item 3025 item 3068 , toxic as fuck. Shaco's E is point and click, but all he has other than that is aa, and boxes have to be set in advance, guess you're technically right cuz you can't dodge aa's, but I wouldn't count that as unavoidable. Kha'zix has his leap, but it doesn't do much damage, and his Q is melee range so basically the same as an auto, but y'know, and his spikes are most definately avoidable unless he's right on top of you.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

Yeah notice how you got to dodge 95% of them. Guess how many times you get to dodge Talon, Shaco and khazix when they jump on you. It's a whopping 5%. That's an exaggeration btw I know how people like to strawman.

Trust me I know way more about this game than you. Literally anything you know I know items, champions, changes to the game, how to counterbuild, how to play, everything. I just have the bonus of knowing the things you won't ever learn.

Acting like that QSS change is going to matter is ignorant since the majority of people weren't building QSS for zed anyway especially the bronze and silvers complaining about zed and who cares about the Zhonyas CD getting nerfed it's a 30 second increase. You arent going to need it often enough for it to matter unless you are rushing back into the same fight you needed to zhonyas for some reason. If you are playing something with 0 CC and 0 ways to respond you deserve to die if zed hell if anyone gets to you. That's obvious...

Sorry but unless you have the reflexes of an 80 year old man you can definitely dodge long range fizz shark. How are you gonna bring up items then pretend to not know that grasp and sunfire getting nerfed. On top of that Tank fizz is a minority of players who actually play that champion. AP fizz is played over 4 times more and wins more too so try again.

You dont count auto attacks as unavoidable? Sure if you play the few champions that can dodge them for a few seconds but why would shaco be trying to kill the one person who he cant?

Khazix Q isnt an auto attack at all. Not even close to being comparable. Yeah his spikes are avoidable but how are you gonna complain about fizz fish yet claim that khazix spikes are definitely avoidable. His spikes have 350 more missile speed than fish. His spikes also aren't where most of his burst comes from so it really doesnt matter if he hits them or not.

FYI. you can build a QSS vs ahri to stop charm too... so that 1-20 just became 0-20. Easy concept right building an item that removes the thing that kills you. Oh god damnit you can do that against fizz fish too. Darn it these options that dont exist need to stop existing already.

DarkLarvitar1 votes

no Rengar Kassadin ?

63536895_DEL1 votes

Doing it for every assassin would have been too time consuming.

dagurr1 votes

the shaco is retarded to put his q is his esacape even if he fails he can get away

63536895_DEL1 votes

Shaco uses his Q to go in for the kill, and it has an 11 second cd at all ranks. If he escapes with Q without at least taking damage in those 11 seconds then you just don't know how to play against Shaco.

Espy Psyche1 votes

Ahri is not an assassin. Ahri is a burst mage, more similar in playstyle to Brand or Lux than Zed or Talon. Actually, the Lux comparison is apt, because they both use the same play pattern: land the debilitating CC ability (Ahri's charm/Lux's snare) and use the lockdown time to blow everything on them. The difference is Lux does it from long range while Ahri just dives in and dives right back out.

The state Zed's in, he prevents a lot of picks just by existing. I don't even play mid lane any more because Zed (and Leblanc too) exists. Lissandra into Zed , i win, any other matchup mid lane against him I lose. Same goes for LB: Galio into Leblanc I win, others into her I lose.

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