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Nerf Darius

okamiyasha95··2 votes·728 views

Darius Is Too Oppressive. He is an immobile champ but with Black Cleaver, Righteous Glory, or other items like Deadman's Plate, that is no longer a problem. Darius is known for being oppressive and has been since for freaking ever. People say he has the lowest base damage stats, but that doesn't make up for the fact all his stats are buffed as soon as his passive hits off. If he gets to level 3, he can automatically get 4 stacks on his passive which deals an absurd amount of damage over time. His Q has a considerable amount of range, his autos have a considerable amount of range, his ult has an absurd amount of range, his e is the only thing that should have a considerable amount of range, but it has an extreme amount of range. I've played darius plenty of times and it doesn't take a lot of skill to 1 v 2 or bully your opponents. I know that once he misses his e he's free game, but that is only if he doesn't have Black Cleaver, and even then, it still doesn't matter cuz he can just q and heal back whatever damage he took. Let us be clear, missing e does not make him useless, it just substantially lowers his kill potential, but what are the chances a darius player is going to miss hi e? That's just his early game to speak. In teamfights, he is completely oppressive unless you're whole team is cc. It goes from killing the carries to building against darius, KILL THE DARIUS. While you're trying to kill him, he kills at least 3 of your teammates, wastes all your abilities and kiting becomes useless with help from his teammates. His only strength should be when the enemy is stupid enough to get in melee range of darius, but that's not the case and making him an either ban or automatically lose champ.

8 Comments

Jamaree3 votes

Get better.

heroikc1 votes

I once bullied a Darius several times as Ornn; kept winning early and late game trades with Darius's only wins being times I went a bit ham (once per game).

Lord of Math1 votes

Darius can still very much be kited, if you want to know how to deal with him, then play him and see his weaknesses. He is strong against people who do not pay against him properly.

RenownedWheat421 votes

Darius is good for countering some meta picks right now (namely Gnar, he shits on the little fucker from my experience) but he's certainly not too strong by ANY means.

okamiyasha951 votes

Ok. I thought I elaborated on how it is possible to kite him when he misses all his abilities and the only time gnar gets shitted on by ANYBODY is if that gnar player is bad at playing gnar. Secondly, his base damage isn't too high, but his passive does too much damage. Therefore, he does too much damage. I never suggested nerfing his damage or implied it. I simply suggested to nerf his range since he can itemize to make his biggest and only weakness, being immobile, not a problem. Sure, you can kite him all day, but then you lose cs because it would either be to get in range of his attacks or take a few cs. Now, I'm suggesting to lower his e range and auto attack range, but then again, it could just be that riot needs to fix animations. You can flash right before hit ults you and somehow it manages to hit you. That goes for multiple champs too. On that note, if your opponent decides to go an AP poke lane (Teemo or others), then you can build spirit visage and merc treads which not only makes taking ap damage so much more comfortable but the visage also allows darius to heal an excessive amount of health back. I know that there are A LOT of other champs that need nerfs because they do more damage than darius (TANKS), but they are not nearly as oppressive as darius AND they haven't had been as oppressive for as long as darius has. As long as he has been out every has been complaining about him. They nerfed his e cd, but that was all. The only that did was make him wait like an extra 5 secs before he could become majorly oppressive again.

Jamaree1 votes

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Ok. I thought I elaborated on how it is possible to kite him when he misses all his abilities and the only time gnar gets shitted on by ANYBODY is if that gnar player is bad at playing gnar.

I can also kite him on Vlad.

Secondly, his base damage isn't too high, but his passive does too much damage. Therefore, he does too much damage.

This literally makes no sense. “His damage isn’t too high, but his other damage is so his damage is too high.” What?

I never suggested nerfing his damage or implied it. I simply suggested to nerf his range since he can itemize to make his biggest and only weakness, being immobile, not a problem.

No, that is literally the problem and exactly why he doesn’t see play. He is an immobile champion without a lot of innate tankiness that needs to build hanky to survive, but if he does that, then his damage is gimped unless he is snowballing.

Sure, you can kite him all day, but then you lose cs because it would either be to get in range of his attacks or take a few cs.

No you don’t, get better at playing the game please.

Now, I'm suggesting to lower his e range and auto attack range,

So make him even worst then he currently is because low elo players refuse to get better, good idea.

You can flash right before hit ults you and somehow it manages to hit you.

Yeah, because the ability hit you, they removed the ability for flash to dodge spells way back in season 1.

On that note, if your opponent decides to go an AP poke lane (Teemo or others), then you can build spirit visage and merc treads which not only makes taking ap damage so much more comfortable but the visage also allows darius to heal an excessive amount of health back.

Congrats, you are now doing little damage to anything not squishy while being a subpar tank.

I know that there are A LOT of other champs that need nerfs because they do more damage than darius (TANKS), but they are not nearly as oppressive as darius AND they haven't had been as oppressive for as long as darius has.

He is a lane bully, of course he is oppressive, that is his thing, get better at the game.

As long as he has been out low elo players has been complaining about him.

Fixed that for you.

They nerfed his e cd, but that was all. The only that did was make him wait like an extra 5 secs before he could become majorly oppressive again.

I repeat, please get better at the game:

okamiyasha951 votes

First and foremost, with the right itemization and dodging, Darius can easily reach you and kill you if not chunk a considerable portion of your health. If a good darius player wants to kill you or chunk a huge portion of your health, you will die or be majorly injured. Second, no champ is unkitable, unkillable, or uncounterable nor did I disagree with myself in the points I was making. I have played against Darius plenty of times and have stomped him early game, but once he hits mid and late game, you can no longer 1 v 1 him unless you are stupidly fed. Thirdly, Darius is in a bad spot because the majority of darius players suck with darius. If you follow the matchups of Darius, they will tell you he is at a lower win rate than most top laners, but in the same token it will also tell you he has a lower win rate in matchups on average against people like riven on and gangplank. Since he has a high ban rate and since the meta has changed making Darius harder to 1 v 5, the pro players and players who used to main darius have simply played other champions. Take Dyrus for example, he used to play Darius all the time every game, but now he plays other champions like Urgot, Camille, and Jax. No, I am not agreeing with you on that Darius is in a bad spot. I am pointing out why he is in a bad spot and his "bad spot" is bullcrap. If more players actually played darius better instead of thinking they can just 1 v 5 everybody or only build stacks, his win rate would jump considerably. I want you to lane against Dyrus or SoloRenekton playing Darius and tell me if you win. In almost all cases, Darius wins lane. HARD. The only way to kill a good darius after 6 is with help. It is not as simple as get better at the game. Even if you get better at the game, a broken ass champion is still gonna be a broken ass champion. That's like telling a who a second grader who got beat up and bullied in school by a fifth grader, to toughen up and fight back. It might be a better option than crying and whining all the time, but more times than likely, you're still gonna get your ass beat. No, toughening up does not make the bully acceptable. Darius' state is, still is, and has always been unacceptable. Even Fiora, who is still overpowered, isn't oppressive as darius and she can 1 v 5 while darius can't, is acceptable.

okamiyasha951 votes

Nobody is and has stated that "Darius is the strongest pick" or "nobody can kill him" or "He needs the nerf hammer the most." No I'm not the best player. At the same time, I shouldn't have to pick a champ I don't like or I'm not good at because if I pick the champion I want to play, I automatically lose. In the majority of games, you almost always see a darius banned or picked.

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