Cinderhulk.

Coletrain1·Apr 5, 2015·2 votes·1,581 views

The screenshot shows Damage Dealt to Champions/Damage taken from champions.

So tanks are still as tanky as ever, but now they also outclass the ADC & APC in damage output.

Working as intended?

Inb4 "omg that's just one example tanks are finally in the meta, Sejuani is the only problem and even she isn't THAT bad"

15 Comments

DurzakaApr 5, 20159 votes

AoE Damage is AoE damage.

It is ALWAYS going to be the highest damage on the team if you are doing well.

Notice almost everything else on the team is very limited AoE (Fizz LB E and W, Graves Ult and Q) or no AoE at all. Whereas everythign Amumu has it AoE.

Coletrain1Apr 5, 20152 votes

Except he wasn't doing well. The enemy team was ahead by 6K & 3 towers by 22 minutes... but as soon as the laning phase ended the team fights were completely one sided.

DurzakaApr 5, 20152 votes

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Except he wasn't doing well. The enemy team was ahead by 6K & 3 towers by 22 minutes... but as soon as the laning phase ended the team fights were completely one sided.

In terms of the rest of his team, not the entire game.

He was clearly in the thick of a lot of aoe fights to deal that much damage, win or lose.

Hence why damage dealt doesnt mean anything.

The5lackerApr 5, 20154 votes

Erm, you do realize Sunfire Cape has always existed, right? And Cinderhulk only deals 8 more damage per second than it, and only if you're in combat for 10 seconds.

Coletrain1Apr 5, 20152 votes

Erm, you do realize that In terms of Gold value Sunfire Cape is a complete joke compared to Cinderhulk. 25% Bonus Health is worth anywhere between 1000-2000 gold in HP late game depending on runes and how much extra HP you're building. The health stats on the item alone pay for the majority of the full item cost, and you can't argue "oh well that doesn't count until late game" because Riot has specifically made changes to encourage longer games.

The5lackerApr 5, 20151 votes

So are you complaining about gold value or damage?

MartyrofsandApr 5, 20154 votes

OP posts a pic with 2 assassins who AoE is limited, and a graves whos is know to be one of the lower damage dealing ADCs and pits them against a tank with 3 AoE abilities, one of which is scaling health based, anotber gets reduced CD when he gets hit and he is surprised by the result.

Next time switch out the Leblanc for an Annie/Viktor/etc or switch Graves out for Vayne/Kog/Jinx and let me know how those numbers turn out.

Angry MonsterApr 5, 20151 votes

The best part is that the build is not shown. Now i am going to say that it was a cinder hulk ammu in the pic but i have seen pure AP build ammus with over 50k in 30 minutes.

EndlessSorcererApr 5, 20153 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1784576517/32761233?tab=overview

Amumu had Cinderhulk, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Liandry's Torment, and Thornmail. That's a pretty damage heavy Amumu build, especially since you had three autoattackers for the Thornmail to return damage to.

Your team had very little MR, so Amumu's damage wasn't really being mitigated in the least. Morgana had Abyssal Scepter, you had Mercury Treads, and Braum had Locket of the Iron Solari, and that was it.

Considering how your team built primarily damage, all Amumu really needed was to lock you down long enough for his team to burst a couple of you, then clean up afterwards.

The biggest issue was probably the time of the game, honesty. Considering that your team was also primarily physical damage (especially with how defensive Morgana was building) and they only really needed armor and health to mitigate most of your team's damage output.

ModKnightsKemplarApr 5, 20151 votes

Good analysis. This guy is cherry-picking data like crazy. You can't just throw up damage, blame one item for it, and call it a day. Yeah, Amumu might need a couple tweaks now, but that damage wasn't coming from cinderhulk alone... Let's get real.