I play ADC thresh a lot, and everytime we lose the game, it's "report thresh please". Although, my support sona dies level 1 because she can't dodge a simple skill shot, and is 3 levels behind me in lane, on top of 14 deaths, but yes, report me because of my pick.
King of Demons2 votesADC Thresh simply isn't good. That doesn't mean it can't work, but you are automatically put at a disadvantage.
HKT Striker2 votesAt least adc thresh is better than elise mid, warwick adc or urgot jungle...
KindredAndWolf1 votes[{quoted}](name=HKT Striker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=35spuNIA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-11T10:41:01.230+0000)
At least adc thresh is better than elise mid, warwick adc or urgot jungle...
Um im not sure about that. The biggest reason thresh adc sucks so much is that his abilities take way too long to cast and you lose a ton of dps. It's similar to late game vayne. Casting her q actually LOWERS your dps at the end of the game because that roll is like 3 auto's worth of time. Thresh 's whole kit is way, way worst than vayne's tumble. Thinking adc thresh is good shows a serious lack in basic game understanding. If you still wanna build AD on thresh, buy items that synergize better with his kit and stay far away from attack speed.
Also, almost all of your examples are more viable than adc thresh....
HKT Striker2 votesUm im not sure about that. The biggest reason thresh adc sucks so much is that his abilities take way too long to cast and you lose a ton of dps. It's similar to late game vayne. Casting her q actually LOWERS your dps at the end of the game because that roll is like 3 auto's worth of time.
ADC Thresh's damage doesn't come mainly from his normal autos, but rather his empowered auto from his passive, so auto'ing isn't as important as a other adc's. Caitlyn also does less damage with her q compared to autos late game
Thinking adc thresh is good shows a serious lack in basic game understanding.
I didn't say adc thresh is good, I said it's better than elise mid, warwick jg and urgot jungle. (of course, I also meant other off meta builds, but if you get the meaning of the statement or not is your problem, not mine.) I think I understand the game more than a player that pretty much only plays twisted treeline and is only Gold V 0 LP on that side (My Main Account is Diamond II)
If you still wanna build AD on thresh, buy items that synergize better with his kit and stay far away from attack speed.
I said AD thresh, not 'attack speed' thresh. Learn to read.
Also, almost all of your examples are more viable than adc thresh....
By almost, which do you mean? Elise mid doesn't scale and she can't hit cocoon with minions in the way. Warwick adc would just get poked to death over and over again. Urgot jungle doesn't have enough sustain to clear camps, and you don't gank as efficient as a normal jungler. Now who's the one with 'a serious lack in basic game understanding'?
KindredAndWolf1 votes[{quoted}](name=HKT Striker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=35spuNIA,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-06-11T11:43:33.264+0000)
By almost, which do you mean? Elise mid doesn't scale and she can't hit cocoon with minions in the way. Warwick adc would just get poked to death over and over again. Urgot jungle doesn't have enough sustain to clear camps, and you don't gank as efficient as a normal jungler. Now who's the one with 'a serious lack in basic game understanding'?
LOL that is exactly how BAD adc thresh is, all those examples are MORE viable than "AD" thresh. Let's be honest here... WW adc would suck... or would it with kallista support??? hmmm.
Vaynes q givesher mobility and an invisible, Cait's q gives her a poke. thresh's one saving grace is more damage on his regular AA. To make matters worst for ad thresh he CAN'T attack any enemy (champ minion monster) to gain damage on his one empowered AA. (PASSIVE: Thresh's basic attacks deal bonus magic damage, increasing with time spent not attacking enemy units or neutral monsters.).
Last but not least, each and every Thresh aa HAS A WIND UP (BASIC ATTACKS: Thresh's basic attacks do not use projectiles and his basic attack wind-up is only reduced by 0.25% per 1% bonus attack speed (compared to the standard 1 per 1). LOL he is GARBAGE built ad, PURE GARBAGE
HKT Striker2 votesLOL that is exactly how BAD adc thresh is, all those examples are MORE viable than "AD" thresh. Let's be honest here... WW adc would suck... or would it with kallista support??? hmmm.
Thresh ADC is way better than WW adc. I also don't understand why you would mention kalista support, since mentioning her doesn't help prove thresh adc is good/bad/whatever you wanna say
Vaynes q givesher mobility and an invisible, Cait's q gives her a poke. thresh's one saving grace is more damage on his regular AA.
I guess a stupid person wouldn't understand how useful cc and self-peel are, not to mention the power to help someone escape.
To make matters worst for ad thresh he CAN'T attack any enemy (champ minion monster) to gain damage on his one empowered AA. (PASSIVE: Thresh's basic attacks deal bonus magic damage, increasing with time spent not attacking enemy units or neutral monsters.).
Attacking doesn't reset thresh's passive. Don't say(or type) something without knowing what you are doing.
LOL he (Thresh) is GARBAGE built ad, PURE GARBAGE And in your match history you built AD on evelynn, which is much more garbage than AD thresh.
Thresh adc isn't as good as a regular adc, but it's better than what most people think he is.
I don't expect a person with 'a serious lack of basic game knowledge' to understand what I am saying though.
KindredAndWolf1 votes[{quoted}](name=HKT Striker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=35spuNIA,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-11T12:09:08.835+0000)
The salt is blinding your eyes man. I never said his damage was reset on his AA, i said if he wants to GAIN damage he literally cant attack anything. And this is true.
You ignored the part about Thresh's wind up on his AA lol...
Look man, I have an _opinion _ and it's not something you have to reduce yourself to name calling to counter. My opinion is that it's mathematically inefficient in literally every way you think about it. Hell your empowered AA does magic damage so the health/ar pen synergy you get from black cleaver is partly wasted. Building him ad isn't gold efficient and thats a fact. It's great for fun, but it is of my opinion that most people with a "solid grasp of game knowledge" will be unhappy about having a thresh on their team in any form but support. Its probably the reason they flame the op after his matches. Do i personally feel ad thresh is garbage in every way and probably worst than adc ww that could build tank and still do more damage than adc thresh? I most certainly do. Chin up kid, don't be mad, play your game. Don't worry about how your team mates feel, YOU have fun trolling worst than s2 Eve.
edit: grammar, its still bad.
HKT Striker1 votesIt's not riot's fault.
First of all, you should have been prepared to be flamed at, and you should have explained why it is good. Secondly, the people in your elo apparently are stupid and so you should tell them to do things instead of letting them go around doing bad plays. An advice would be to either get to a higher mmr or simply explain to them why it's good. Riot doesn't punish you based on what champion you play (unless you got reported for scripting), riot punishes you based on what you say in chat and also very rarely your kda. (If you are 0/51/0, I'm pretty sure you will get reported unless you edit the client)
Sir Fuzzi1 votesTo be fair, it takes consideration to run off-meta; you can't just pull an ADC who has irregular damage and expect it to pan out totally normal.
deadlychuck1 votesThey claim to, but then every single one of their decisions seems to indicate otherwise.
Paroe1 votes@thread Riot wants a specific meta and that meta hasnt really changed for years. Game has an unfortunate habit of stagnation and people like Starilae are just victims of stagnation.
That being said, thresh doesnt have a lot of range so its actually kind of hard to out trade other marksman with him and you just get poked out. Sona was also a TERRIBLE choice to go with thresh.... You want someone like rakan, blitzcrank, karma, or lulu. champions with good CC and low cooldowns.
