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Jinx: Opinions on current state. Needs a slight nerf.

YMe·3/4/2015, 10:19:34 PM·8 votes·1,685 views

Being one of the last 2 hyper carry adcs in the game (Jinx and Kogmaw according to Phreak) she over performs in all stages of the game I'd have to say. She can lane bully with her untradeable rocket range against a lot of adcs, even bad Jinx players that get fed by their team can snowball and right click to win mid to late game, takes towers faster than any other adc, aoe super safe range crit, cc, gain massive speed boosting resets, fire ultimates across the map to snipe players, dragons, or barons, good laning, great mid, and over powered end game. Compared to the other hyper carry adc it's a pretty silly comparison, Kogmaw can only dream of bringing this much to the table. Just needs to be toned down a notch IMO for how powerful this pick can be in every phase of the game. Her weaknesses are easily taken care of by any decent support with CC. I really wouldn't want to see her gutted completely because she's a fun champ, but the numbers definitely need some slight adjustments.

Jinx mains please don't flame me, everything I've said here is pretty on point.

23 Comments

Chief Mayonnaise3/4/2015, 11:56:08 PM3 votes

I might be biased as a jinx main, but I think she's pretty well balanced right now. As you said, any competent support can cc her. Yes, the aoe crits at long range can be game changing. So just don't stack or fight her in the jungle. I also believe the problem is with crits themselves being broken. Too much RNG. Another thing to consider is her lack of attack speed in rocket form. To get the most out of her dps, she has to be in 525 range. If I were to touch something, it would probably be the % health on her ult. But other than that, she's a very well designed champion. Well defined strengths and weaknesses.

Pucking Purrfect3/4/2015, 10:36:50 PM3 votes

There are plenty champs which are in need of urgent nerf than Jinx. Please stop whining about her. She is not that OP.

ProfDrDeath3/4/2015, 10:25:54 PM2 votes

Performance data seem to agree with you: http://champion.gg/champion/Jinx/ADC

I am just not really sure what they could hit about her most reasonably. Trim some unnecessary power of Chompers, which have high base damage? But that ability usually is maxed last, and the rank 1 base damage is actually pretty average.

EDIT: Also, on hypercarries: I wouldn't necessarily classify Jinx as a hypercarry. Unlike the 4 hypercarry AD carries, her performance actually decreases with game length, with her winrate peaking at 20-25 mins. The hypercarries' winrate curves, on the other hand, actually raise with game time, with the peaks reached at the longest games. This is true for all four of them: Vayne, Tristana, Kog'Maw and Twitch. In addition, Kog'Maw and Twitch feature a local peak at 20-25 mins, which I'd explain by their mid-game Triforce powerspike (Kog) and assassination potential (Twitch).

4 In The Morning3/4/2015, 11:15:14 PM2 votes

i play jinx /a lot/ so i may be a bit biased but imo she's in a good spot as far as balance goes: her mobility is super conditional (activating only on kill or assist), her snares have a delay, her w is telegraphed and is pretty thin, and her ult is really unreliable (though i'd say its actual hit-box is larger than what it actually looks like so that might be something to change). all-in champs shut her down pretty hard and she's easy to get to in team fights. as for her being a hypercarry, i wouldn't call her that. sure her late game is kinda good, but unless she's super fed, any other fighter or adc should be able to take her down in the late game (tristana can crit her from a mile away, vayne can outmaneuver her and stun her against a wall, kog'maw can poke at her from across the map, and twitch can sneak up on her). though i will say that the aoe damage from her rockets applying crits seems a bit ridiculous.

rumples3/4/2015, 10:29:35 PM2 votes

The amount of slow on zap could be toned down imo

Raja Chachki3/5/2015, 5:04:26 AM2 votes

Trist is better with towers, but I agree some part of her needs nerfing. Also, Vayne is a hyper carry :). Oh and her ult really isn't the easiest thing to snipe with, unless of course you are hitting Baron, which doesn't move xD

An idea to nerf her is make her AoE crits 50% damage, I think she would still easily be viable with this nerf.

paulolol3/5/2015, 12:06:47 AM2 votes

She's strong but she's also easy to shut down if you have hard engage. Late game she requires great positioning to not die but her q rockets late game are really strong. Having 700 ranged AOE crits will do that.

I've been maining her since her release and she's definitely a strong pick. I don't wanna see her get nerfed but I wouldn't be surprised if she did get toned down.

I am never good3/5/2015, 11:00:31 PM1 votes

Something has to happen to reduce her power a bit. The Q early is too strong, it's almost impossible to win trades since she will spam rockets while you back off for almost no mana cost. Lack of mobility isn't a reason when 2 abilities and passive gives mobility and escape.

Sire Hippington3/4/2015, 10:58:40 PM1 votes

easy fix, remove crit from her the aoe part, change the Q rocket scaleing from 110% to 100/105/110/115/120%, evt nerf that insane cleanup passive or her damage vs towers with miigun(a minigun beeing better to crush a building than a rocketluncher?!?). The two main problems are her potential insane aoe damage with crits, and that a won fight nearly always means 1-2onjektives, as she can clean it up easily and has insane dps vs objektives(kinda what made old tris op aswell)

Jaygo413/4/2015, 11:17:46 PM1 votes

Yeah jinx is super safe, if someone dies in a fight she's essentially invulnerable and unhittable until the fights over her reset passive is pretty insane

YMe3/5/2015, 4:56:50 AM1 votes

I think it's hilarious how at the end of my post I say "Jinx mains please don't flame me". And then the jinx mains come out "I main Jinx, shes balanced" "Please stop whining about her. Shes not that OP" Her numbers NEED to be toned down.

OhOkYea3/4/2015, 10:20:18 PM1 votes

nerf sivir