While you're testing that passive change on Zyra, I have another suggestion...

Deep Terror Nami·Aug 1, 2015·18 votes·1,473 views

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When Zyra hits a Thorn Spitter (plant grown from Q - Deadly Bloom) with her E - Grasping Roots, the roots radiate a short distance from the plant as well.

When Zyra hits a Thorn Spitter with Grasping Roots (first plant only), the next attack that plant makes results in a Grasping Roots being launched in that direction originating from the plant (not Zyra again).

5 Comments

FantasySniperAug 1, 201510 votes

Extending the range of her roots through her plants? Holy hell, that's awesome.

Might be a lil' too good, but lets just try it out first.

Lord DusteonAug 1, 20154 votes

That first suggestion sounds really interesting; adds a bit more of an actual reason to fear being close to her plants instead of just "they do reasonable base damage". The second seems like it would be a bit too powerful however; it means an effective QWE could have you hit by the snare, then hit by a second plant snare right after for a ~2-2.5 second snare (plant attacks once on spawn, pre E, you autoattack them so the plant targets them and attacks the snared person for a double snare).

For the first suggestion, however, it would seem much better for her Vine Lashers to have some interaction with Q in addition to the Thorn Spitters interacting with E, as with the Rylai's change (which even before the change Rylai's made her Q plants 100% better) the only thing Vine Lashers have is lower range and a slow before you finish the Rylai's. Not sure exactly what, but it could be a variation on zone control. Maybe have a Q'd Vine Lasher have a more powerful slow (50%? 60%? But this would buff support Zyra quite a lot and make her even worse to fight as a melee), or do more damage, or try to prioritize champions instead of minions/monsters.

MimaropaAug 2, 20152 votes

First of all zyra doesn't need this since her lvl 3 powerspike ewqw combo can take half of a champs hp but it would be a nice addition. I do agree the first one is good and the second is op. It should have the other ability's effect like the first one.( Being thornspitter giving small aoe root). I would suggest the lasher would have an extra aoe dmg(a similar delayed q after the q from zyra) or increasing the lasher attack range. Her plants do good sustained damage anyways. The lasher increased range would is better and doesn't seemed to be op.