/s
he 3 shotted me before the first wave even left thanks to 3 lucky ass crits, then just afk farmed till bork and shiv and stomped everyone else into the dirt.
why does riot let a literal cancer champ like this exist in his current state.
100% RNG reliance is CANCER and not fun for either player.
Fed by Snu Snu10 votesWhen everything that counters you slowly gets nerfed and you remain unnoticed, you eventually get to be king.
Tryndamere is just proof that the balance team does not have any grand view of the game in total when nerfing or reworking champions. They do not understand interactions and how one champion allows for someone else to be kept in check.
Of course, when 
keeps over 10 champions from even being considered a viable jungle pick, everything is fine as well.
Crimsonninja1171 votesI never have problems with trynd i main riven so its just a free lane for me
Bard to Believe1 votesI never have problems with trynd i main riven so its just a free lane for me
until he hits 6 and gets one crit item. then you lose hard.
and then he just either snowballs or afk farms top and forces you to stay and defend while your team loses everything else.
Crimsonninja1171 votesNot really in all the last matches i can remember laning aganst him ive had 0 issues just for me hes easy to get fed off of
Starcraft243ver1 votesActually they improved randin against crit champions.
NineTailedMystic1 votesWhen everything that counters you slowly gets nerfed and you remain unnoticed, you eventually get to be king.
You mean the main reason why Ahri is top tier right now?
Fed by Snu Snu5 votesYou mean the main reason why Ahri is top tier right now?
Ahri has been consistently buffed with small gimmicks like the Q MS buff, consistency buffs like the Q not disappearing on death and bug fixing (Mordekaiser weeps).
abca986 votesThat is why Yasuo was created, you can't lose the lane because of an unlucky crit you didn't expect if the crit chance is always at 100% :D
Bard to Believe1 votesThat is why Yasuo was created, you can't lose the lane because of an unlucky crit you didn't expect if the crit chance is always at 100% :D
yasuo gets dumpstered by trynd are you kidding
if you leash while trynd goes straight to top you might as well forfeit lane there.
tryndamere needs a rework BAD.
abca982 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-05-09T10:40:41.019+0000)
yasuo gets dumpstered by trynd are you kidding
if you leash while trynd goes straight to top you might as well forfeit lane there.
tryndamere needs a rework BAD.
I said that Yasuo doesn't have the problem of RNG because Trynda may or may not crit you since he has 30% chance naturally. If he crits 2 or 3 hits in a row he will force you to b, and you can't predict it because crit chance means you can't be sure of if he will crit or not. Meanwhile Yasuo has 100% crit so you expect him to always crit. Get the joke now?
archerno16 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-09T10:28:31.385+0000)
/s
he 3 shotted me before the first wave even left thanks to 3 lucky ass crits, then just afk farmed till bork and shiv and stomped everyone else into the dirt.
why does riot let a literal cancer champ like this exist in his current state.
100% RNG reliance is CANCER and not fun for either player.
Why did u fight him early?
Also you dont decide whats fun for other players. Only for you
Fed by Snu Snu10 votesWhy did u fight him early?
Better fight Tryndamere late instead. :^)
You literally only have a chance to shut him down between level 1-5 and if you fail it's a stalemate until he overscales.
And if his jungler happens to gank for him before level 6 and nullifies this small time window of opportunity, well tough beans.
archerno14 votes[{quoted}](name=Fed by Snu Snu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:02:35.297+0000)
Better fight Tryndamere late instead. :^)
You literally only have a chance to shut him down between level 1-5 and if you fail it's a stalemate until he overscales.
And if his jungler happens to gank for him before level 6 and nullifies this small time window of opportunity, well tough beans.
He was Gragas with thunderlords and tp vs Tryndamere with ignite and fervor. You dont get into that duel early.
Fed by Snu Snu4 votesHe was Gragas with thunderlords and tp vs Tryndamere with ignite and fervor. You dont get into that duel early.
Or at all...
Bard to Believe5 votesHe was Gragas with thunderlords and tp vs Tryndamere with ignite and fervor. You dont get into that duel early.
i didn't try to duel him, i tried to farm , he spinned into me, got 2 crits, flash crit, ignite before i could even get away. literal cancer 100% rng lane phase.
i also expect aatrox top and trynd jg because wtf, they had 3 tops. what am i supposed to do when im first pick?
archerno15 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=0003000000000001,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:10:39.884+0000)
i didn't try to duel him, i tried to farm , he spinned into me, got 2 crits, flash crit, ignite before i could even get away. literal cancer 100% rng lane phase.
i also expect aatrox top and trynd jg because wtf, they had 3 tops. what am i supposed to do when im first pick?
Gragas is good choice into Trynda. But u have to respect his early power. U farm with your barrels. You DONT take thunderlords, u take courage of the colossus. You rush Frozen Heart to slow his AS, not Iceborn. Get E on lvl 2 and each time he uses E block it with your E. Harasd him with Q and wait for jungle(but after 6 u can kill him eadily)
Bard to Believe5 votesGragas is good choice into Trynda. But u have to respect his early power. U farm with your barrels. You DONT take thunderlords, u take courage of the colossus. You rush Frozen Heart to slow his AS, not Iceborn. Get E on lvl 2 and each time he uses E block it with your E. Harasd him with Q and wait for jungle(but after 6 u can kill him eadily)
i don't care WHAT i should've done. the point of my thread is that tryndamere is unfun to lane against and unless you end the game before he gets 3 items he's just gonna split all day and force me to sit at top the whole game.
he's designed to be a berserker, and yet he has the most cowardly playstyle in the game.
is he in danger? SPIN AWAY+R, come back in 2 mins when you back because he's resourceless and stupid sustainy.
is he gonna engage? OH HERE EAT 3 STRAIGHT CRITS WHEN HE ONLY HAS 20% CRIT, w, crit crit e crit r crit crit dead.
does he not do well in teamfights? OH WELL he'll just rotate lanes and push them like a motherfucker and force your whole to to go and try to stop him which ends up in him killing your adc supp and mid before you do.
archerno12 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=000300000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:22:18.879+0000)
i don't care WHAT i should've done. the point of my thread is that tryndamere is unfun to lane against and unless you end the game before he gets 3 items he's just gonna split all day and force me to sit at top the whole game.
he's designed to be a berserker, and yet he has the most cowardly playstyle in the game.
is he in danger? SPIN AWAY+R, come back in 2 mins when you back because he's resourceless and stupid sustainy.
is he gonna engage? OH HERE EAT 3 STRAIGHT CRITS WHEN HE ONLY HAS 20% CRIT, w, crit crit e crit r crit crit dead.
does he not do well in teamfights? OH WELL he'll just rotate lanes and push them like a motherfucker and force your whole to to go and try to stop him which ends up in him killing your adc supp and mid before you do.
Bard to Believe2 votessure do have a lot to learn. but i also know a lot of other perfectly fine champions were reworked for NOTHING while this fuck gets to be 100% luck reliant on whether he wins early. forget beating him early if you had to leash and he didnt.
its like you're just some troll who's so obsessed with how shit i am that you can't objectively look at his kit and make a decision that it's BINARY AS FUCK and is truly deserving a rework. yeah i fucking get it i did bad.. but that doesnt change that fact that every trynd i see does the EXACT same thing. STALLS WITH SPLIT PUSHES TILL HE CAN WIN GAME WHILE NEVER GETTING CAUGHT UNLESS HE FUCKS UP
archerno12 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=00030000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:33:38.469+0000)
sure do have a lot to learn. but i also know a lot of other perfectly fine champions were reworked for NOTHING while this fuck gets to be 100% luck reliant on whether he wins early. forget beating him early if you had to leash and he didnt.
its like you're just some troll who's so obsessed with how shit i am that you can't objectively look at his kit and make a decision that it's BINARY AS FUCK and is truly deserving a rework. yeah i fucking get it i did bad.. but that doesnt change that fact that every trynd i see does the EXACT same thing. STALLS WITH SPLIT PUSHES TILL HE CAN WIN GAME WHILE NEVER GETTING CAUGHT UNLESS HE FUCKS UP
Buddy, low elo have complained about Trynda for years. But fact is , he is garbage. You keep saying RNG RNG RNG. Its a crit chance. It always existed. There is absolutely no reason for u to let him auto u. Its not about him being broken or anything, but how u play against him. Although i agree that he needs rework, or some buffs to make him somewhat useful.
Bard to Believe3 votesBuddy, low elo have complained about Trynda for years. But fact is , he is garbage. You keep saying RNG RNG RNG. Its a crit chance. It always existed. There is absolutely no reason for u to let him auto u. Its not about him being broken or anything, but how u play against him. Although i agree that he needs rework, or some buffs to make him somewhat useful.
buddy, you're being really condescending.
i say RNG because no one else starts with crit unless they start crit runes,
also critical hits are a SYNONYM FOR RNG. its BASED ON A DICE ROLL HENCE RNG.
but tell me more about how much of a god plat you are and how you've never lost to a tryndamere ever, and how he's not a cancerous splitpushing piece of shit
tell me more of how i should go full tank masteries and still be able to keep up with him in farm with just barrel spam and doran's ring.
AGAIN THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. HIS KIT IS JUST UNFUN TO PLAY AGAINST AND HIS PLAYSTYLE IS AGGRAVATING AS FUCK AND NOT FUN IN THE LATE GAME. WHAT IS READING COMPREHENSION\
archerno13 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=0003000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:46:02.034+0000)
buddy, you're being really condescending.
i say RNG because no one else starts with crit unless they start crit runes,
also critical hits are a SYNONYM FOR RNG. its BASED ON A DICE ROLL HENCE RNG.
but tell me more about how much of a god plat you are and how you've never lost to a tryndamere ever, and how he's not a cancerous splitpushing piece of shit
tell me more of how i should go full tank masteries and still be able to keep up with him in farm with just barrel spam and doran's ring.
AGAIN THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE. HIS KIT IS JUST UNFUN TO PLAY AGAINST AND HIS PLAYSTYLE IS AGGRAVATING AS FUCK AND NOT FUN IN THE LATE GAME. WHAT IS READING COMPREHENSION\
You are not supposed to have fun playing AGAINST a champion. You are suppose to have fun playing WITH champion. Hell what champion is fun to play against (and why)? You are playing against player , champion is just a tool u use.
Big fucking deal. Singed playstyle is also aggravating. So is Fizz. So is Zed. So is Soraka. So is Aurelion. So is Blitz. So is Teemo. So is Lee. Hell, most aggravating for a top laner is facing Heimerdinger. You think Trynda is unfun to play against? Have u tried playing against Urgot? Dude can bombard u from a far and there is nothing u can do. Your fun should come from champion that you play and from outplaying your opponent.
Bard to Believe1 votesYou are not supposed to have fun playing AGAINST a champion. You are suppose to have fun playing WITH champion. Hell what champion is fun to play against (and why)? You are playing against player , champion is just a tool u use.
Big fucking deal. Singed playstyle is also aggravating. So is Fizz. So is Zed. So is Soraka. So is Aurelion. So is Blitz. So is Teemo. So is Lee. Hell, most aggravating for a top laner is facing Heimerdinger. You think Trynda is unfun to play against? Have u tried playing against Urgot? Dude can bombard u from a far and there is nothing u can do. Your fun should come from champion that you play and from outplaying your opponent.
strawman argument.
NONE of those people can push with the safety that tryndamere has. urgot has to land his bomb to q spam you, blitz has to land his hook to get you, teemo is only aggravating because of his blind. mr shuts him down so hard. lee is also straight up cancer. aurelion is ap and doesn't have 6 seconds of fuck you to escape from everything.
none of them force you to sit in a lane with him all game or lose 2 turrets and an inhib in the span of ONE teamfight.
ALSO none of them are uber scaling HYPERCARRIES. again, he was fucking 1/2 for 28 minutes, playing extremely cautious and running any time i got him low, just to come back aa mob 3 times and be back to 3/4 hp. he kept doing that until he had 250 farm, got 5 items, and then proceeded to split until he got us to break off from teamfights, and then pick us one by one with 1k damage crits every auto.
who the fuck has fun being forced to sit in lane with him all day as he gradually outscales you while NEVER having to back because of his insane sustain.
please, stop being a fucking douche. you even AGREE THAT HE NEEDS A REWORK SO WHAT ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT
you just wanted an excuse to swing your plat dick around and act superior.
archerno12 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=000300000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:58:29.812+0000)
strawman argument.
NONE of those people can push with the safety that tryndamere has. urgot has to land his bomb to q spam you, blitz has to land his hook to get you, teemo is only aggravating because of his blind. mr shuts him down so hard. lee is also straight up cancer. aurelion is ap and doesn't have 6 seconds of fuck you to escape from everything.
none of them force you to sit in a lane with him all game or lose 2 turrets and an inhib in the span of ONE teamfight.
ALSO none of them are uber scaling HYPERCARRIES. again, he was fucking 1/2 for 28 minutes, playing extremely cautious and running any time i got him low, just to come back aa mob 3 times and be back to 3/4 hp. he kept doing that until he had 250 farm, got 5 items, and then proceeded to split until he got us to break off from teamfights, and then pick us one by one with 1k damage crits every auto.
who the fuck has fun being forced to sit in lane with him all day as he gradually outscales you while NEVER having to back because of his insane sustain.
please, stop being a fucking douche. you even AGREE THAT HE NEEDS A REWORK SO WHAT ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT
U are forgetting one thing. He has ignite, u have teleport. U think Trynda can push faster than 5 of you?
ALso, u are right. There is no point arguing. U will stick to your "UNFUN RNG" point and ignore all the facts.
Aptest1 votesI strongly disagree.
you are supposed to have fun when you win and also you are supposed to have fun when you lose. The way you are describing it, one of those scenarios is impossible because your opponent is sucking out all the fun you get from playing your champion through the mechanism of "winning".
Let's separate power from fun for a moment and explore not why trynd is strong or not, but why he is un-fun to many players (in fact, i don't play top lane because of trynd and the large number of other champions just like him).
I am going to take a lot of liberty with portraying things in a more extreme way than they are in reality here, to make the point clear:
Trynd is playing the split push game, and he takes towers very fast and he is more than reasonably able to just trololol out of ganks.
The problem is mainly the rapidity by which trynd takes towers. This pins his opponent to the top lane and prevents his opponent from "playing the game".
for instance lets say I am playing a team fighting champion like rumble. If I roam to mid, trynd will take a tower. Because of the speed of tower taking and pushing, I have more or less a total of 3 roams and each of those is paid for by a guaranteed tower.
so even though I am playing a team fighter, I really can't team fight. regardless of whether I am ahead or behind, I can't "play my champion", as you have put it.
MunchCrunchLunch2 votes[{quoted}](name=Fed by Snu Snu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:02:35.297+0000)
Better fight Tryndamere late instead. :^)
You literally only have a chance to shut him down between level 1-5 and if you fail it's a stalemate until he overscales.
And if his jungler happens to gank for him before level 6 and nullifies this small time window of opportunity, well tough beans.
thats not true at all. tryndamere doesn't need early kills. he can just afk farm cs and jungle creeps. take down your turret. and he can 1v1 most tops with a deficiet.
Bard to Believe2 votesWhy did u fight him early?
Also you dont decide whats fun for other players. Only for you
the only people who have fun with trynd are people who have fun straight up cheesing.
dude got one kill, got a vamp sceptre and boom, i couldn't do shit to him for the rest of the game between his rng 40 hp heals and q to regen health until next wave came up.
archerno13 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2017-05-09T11:13:39.392+0000)
the only people who have fun with trynd are people who have fun straight up cheesing.
dude got one kill, got a vamp sceptre and boom, i couldn't do shit to him for the rest of the game between his rng 40 hp heals and q to regen health until next wave came up.
Of course u couldnt do shit to him. U played Gragas with wrong masteries. Now ,i cant see your runes in that game but since u have only 2 rune pages with 6 armor in 1 of them then u obviously dont have proper runes either. U started shield instead of ring so u couldnt spam barrels. Sorry, but your bad decisions are reason Trynda got ahead. Not that champion. I am around plat elo and i always shit on Trynda top (although i prefer Poppy instead of Gragas, but Gragas is good too)
Bard to Believe1 votesOf course u couldnt do shit to him. U played Gragas with wrong masteries. Now ,i cant see your runes in that game but since u have only 2 rune pages with 6 armor in 1 of them then u obviously dont have proper runes either. U started shield instead of ring so u couldnt spam barrels. Sorry, but your bad decisions are reason Trynda got ahead. Not that champion. I am around plat elo and i always shit on Trynda top (although i prefer Poppy instead of Gragas, but Gragas is good too)
oh doran's ring makes me able to spam barrels? well fuck i better have absolutely perfect timing with barrels and kill 6 minions with it every time, otherwise i run out of mana in 2 seconds.
doesn't matter if i had doran's ring or not, because he crit me 3 times at LEVEL 1 with less than 30% of his rage bar.
he's entirely RNG and that needs to be changed.
StealWolverine1 votesyou keep saying that even though it is absolutely not true. League doesn't use true rng so there is no way he crit that much.
yesnobanana6 votes[{quoted}](name=Bard to Believe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2sEbFGsO,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-09T10:28:31.385+0000)
why does riot let a literal cancer champ like this exist in his current state.
learn the definision of 'literal' because thats not how you use that.
SickAnto4 votes
If you are Bruiser/Tank, with this item, he can only cry.
Everytime i play top vs Trynda is freekill. Easy to play, easy to counter.
Volibear Boss2 votes
Everytime i play top vs Trynda is freekill. Easy to play, easy to counter.
Pick ANY champions that can build it, and its easy lane.
Critmaster Garen1 votes
Everytime i play top vs Trynda is freekill. Easy to play, easy to counter.
that doesnt mean tryn isnt still the shittiest designed champion in the game at this time.
Jinzo Torrance3 votesTrading level 1 with a Tryndamere, dude you're totally right, he won just because RNG
Sire Hippington2 votesEspecially when it is so easy to fix: Give him the ashe treatment, aka converting his crit into a consistent %damage increase so it's no longer rng dependent.
rework trundle2 votesg i t g u d
Quepha2 votesclip?
thedude1372 votesI mean if he three shot you that means you let him sit there and get three shots....I would walked away..... but that's just me....
MisakoAkiyama1 votesI hate this champion from the bottom of my heart. I know higher MMR players say he's sht, and he is, but I think we can all agree on the fact that his kit is just cancerous. The problem here is that there's not that much "counterplay" in the real meaning of the word, but rather literally "stay-the-fck-away-from-him-if-you-wanna-live"-play. Whereas someone like Fizz, who, once again, is another piece of sh*t, can be countered and relies on hitting his ult most of the time, which is a skillshot. Trynda? Built-in crit, escape and engage that goes through walls, debuff and ult that can be used through cc so you can literally flip the whole enemy team off while rolling away with 1hp. CC is also his only weakness. There goes that. And for y'all "high elo" peeps: the thing is, when trynda gets picked low elo and you had to pick before him, your jungler ain't gonna help. Ever. It's super rare that the jg helps when you need it. In higher elo the coordination is better thus it's easier to play against this brain-dead champ. Understand that the playstyles in low and high elo differ substantially.
Galiö1 votesTeemo agrees
SP2591 votesWhile true the only way I know how to beat trynd is to beat him pre6 because he otherwise has ult and won't die..[slayer-jinx-unamused]
FilDaFunk1 votesI'd prefer RNG over pressing W to mitigate all projectiles.
GULAG 4 U1 votesThere is almost no fucking way tryndamere can 3x crit someone at level 1.
The fucking odds, according to one of your comment (where you say you he had 20% crit) would be 0.20.20.2. Or really fucking low. I call bullshit.
StealWolverine1 votesLower than that since league use a pseudo rng which changes the actual crit chance the game uses to force normalize the results and stop crazy lucky, and unlucky streaks. So low it is impossible, and even then 3 crits wouldnt be enough to kill at level 1 even with e.
GULAG 4 U1 votesExactly. 3x crits in a row is completely bullshit.