Guess I'll die. Because for some reason it has over 100% AP scaling as well as high base damage and it roots us after it's cast, too. Love that! Really enjoying it. I like that if she's disguised, it's a surprise ulti that you can't react to because it's much larger than flash range. Very cool Kanye, thank you.
iiGazeii4 votes"The enemy burst mage got fed and no one had the sense to build Banshee's Veil, Zhonya's, or MR in general to avoid dying to her ult and we all clumped up for her!"
Would it have been any different if a champion like Swain, Brand, Xerath, or Vel'Koz had 200 AP and hit your entire team with their ult? AoE burst mages aren't a new concept.
Hayaishi22 votes"The enemy burst mage got fed and no one had the sense to build Banshee's Veil, Zhonya's, or MR in general to avoid dying to her ult and we all clumped up for her!"
Would it have been any different if a champion like Swain, Brand, Xerath, or Vel'Koz had 200 AP and hit your entire team with their ult? AoE burst mages aren't a new concept.
She's not a burst mage. Giving her burst mage levels of damage is just Riot being <Removed>
iiGazeii4 votesShe's not a burst mage. Giving her burst mage levels of damage is just Riot being retarded.
In her champion spotlight, they literally call her a burst mage.
Hayaishi22 votesIn her champion spotlight, they literally call her a burst mage.
Everything is a burst mage if you ask Riot.
iiGazeii1 votesSo what, in your opinion, makes her NOT a burst mage? Because everything in her kit seems to be pointing towards burst mage. She's doesn't have enough range to be a control mage or artillery mage, doesn't have the health/sustain to be a battlemage, doesn't have the supportive abilities to be an enchanter, doesn't have the mobility to be an assassin. She hits you with a close-range combo to deal a ton of damage in a short period of time. That's a burst mage.
Hayaishi21 votesSo what, in your opinion, makes her NOT a burst mage? Because everything in her kit seems to be pointing towards burst mage. She's doesn't have enough range to be a control mage or artillery mage, doesn't have the health/sustain to be a battlemage, doesn't have the supportive abilities to be an enchanter, doesn't have the mobility to be an assassin. She hits you with a close-range combo to deal a ton of damage in a short period of time. That's a burst mage.
That her kit has too much utility for it? This is like saying Orianna is a burst mage.
iiGazeii1 votesOrianna provides shields, damage resist, buffs/debuffs, CC, and zoning for her team, and deals relatively low damage. She's an enchanter, cut and dry. She has team utility on all but one of her abilities.
Neeko has a root, and that's pretty much it in terms of team utility. No shields or heals for her teammates, no buffs or debuffs, no zone control. Her Q is damage. Her W is her escape/engage. Her passive is for her, not her team, letting her trick enemies into making mistakes or positioning themselves improperly. She's as much a burst mage as Zoe or Brand. She has minor team utility simply by the nature of being a mage and needing CC to be a threat, but she's nowhere near the levels of utility a mage like Karma or Orianna has. She is a burst mage. She's supposed to have damage.
Håppy1 votes"The enemy burst mage got fed and no one had the sense to build Banshee's Veil, Zhonya's, or MR in general to avoid dying to her ult and we all clumped up for her!"
Would it have been any different if a champion like Swain, Brand, Xerath, or Vel'Koz had 200 AP and hit your entire team with their ult? AoE burst mages aren't a new concept.
200 AP is fed, to you? That's just shy of a rabadon rush. That's an item and a half. That's.. fed?
Killer of Night91 votesI just oneshot 100/0 an akali yesterday. But I was 30 min with Gath and DH. Maybe her R ap ratio is too much but I fell like it's playable around.
Jaspers1 votesShe should be comparable to Morgana or Zyra in damage, look at her abilities and ratios. They are very similar but her Ult is 1 single damage burst with a stun and massive ratio compared to the rest. It seems too high, especially as she has a shield to keep her safe. Morgana has to land both parts of her ult to do the same damage, Zyra does half the damage, enhances her plants and has a knockup but casts it at range. I'd say 250, 400, 550 damage with 100% ratio should be fine.
