Does Elise's spiderlings apply Black Cleaver?

JustSir··2 votes·725 views

I can't find a strait answer to this. I read a forum from 2012 but even then there were yes's and no's. I've started playing elise and as a 6th item I was really considering it because I was against a vlad, sion, mundo, and nautilus...all the tank...and if the spiderlings applied the black cleaver, I think that would have been a good choice

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Death by Glamour2 votes

Dont they deal magic damage?

JustSir2 votes

Darius's bleed does magic damage too, doesn't it apply stacks? I'm honestly asking. Just started playing this game with the goal of becoming great and am trying to learn what abilities proc what effects

Death by Glamour4 votes

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Darius's bleed does magic damage too, doesn't it apply stacks? I'm honestly asking. Just started playing this game with the goal of becoming great and am trying to learn what abilities proc what effects

I think darius bleed now does physical after his mini rework.

physical damage will proc the debuff from black cleaver.

JustSir2 votes

AH! That makes sense. Just read that the spiderlings only do magic damage...I guess that would be a little bit busted if 5 spiderlings and you cleaved at the same time lol

Void Nargacuga1 votes

It does work with Malzahar Voidlings... And I usually end up getting 40% CDR on him too, and I have him with item 3146 so I heal off the damage dealt by my Voidlings as well.

The key thing with item 3071 is that it says physical damage. Doesn't say YOUR champion (like malzahar) has to deal the physical damage themselves.

Death by Glamour1 votes

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It does work with Malzahar Voidlings... And I usually end up getting 40% CDR on him too, and I have him with item 3146 so I heal off the damage dealt by my Voidlings as well.

The key thing with item 3071 is that it says physical damage. Doesn't say YOUR champion (like malzahar) has to deal the physical damage themselves. Out of interest

Do they scale with attack speed ?

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Sadly no. But they do automatically increase their attack speed once they frenzy. You can look up the info from here its a link to League of Legends Wikia. Just make sure to press the ability details show button for all the juicy info on the Voidlings.

They also are affected by armor penetration. So the precision mastery in cunning is really good since it helps both Malzahar with MR Pen and his Voidlings with Armor Pen.

WarlockLaw1 votes

How do you max cdr on ad Malzahar?

rG Thundrag1 votes

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How do you max cdr on ad Malzahar?

item 3071 item 1333 item 3142

Void Nargacuga1 votes

I don't build pure AD. I go hybrid semi-tankyish.

My dream build: item 3174 (or item 3165 )item 3116 item 3040 item 3146 item 3071 item 3512

Athene's/Morello's provide 20% CDR getting Cleaver nets another 20% getting you a total of 40% CDR with 2 items.

Void Nargacuga4 votes

Darius bleed damage was changed to physical damage during his rework. Only physical damage can cause item 3071 to apply its armor cleaving passive.

Sightless661 votes

The answer is no because they apply magic damage. It has to be physical damage for the Cleaver to proc. However, summons that apply physical damage (Malzahar's voidlings) would apply black cleaver.

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