Annies ult makes no sense

SexyBabyJesusZ··1 votes·586 views

Her instant 5 man stun thats impossible to dodge unless you flash before she even thinks about pressing r is just ridiculous

she shouldnt be able to keep her stun pocketed for as long as she likes

or her bear should be tossed out like it is in the league cinematic or like iverns ult.

18 Comments

Dominick Destine3 votes

Annie has, arguably the shortest cast range of any mage coupled with no mobility spell.

The trade off for those downsides is that she has a powerful burst combo and stun potential. This is not wrong.

EvilUnicornLord2 votes

Are you complaining about her ult or her passive? Because it sounds to me like you're complaining about her passive.

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

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Are you complaining about her ult or her passive? Because it sounds to me like you're complaining about her passive.

both

EvilUnicornLord2 votes

Alright, what changes do you propose be made to fix this balance issue?

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

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Alright, what changes do you propose be made to fix this balance issue?

read my post.

EvilUnicornLord2 votes

Be more precise. Make it look like patch notes or it's gonna look like whining.

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

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Be more precise. Make it look like patch notes or it's gonna look like whining.

she shouldnt be able to keep her stun pocketed for as long as she likes

or her bear should be tossed out like it is in the league cinematic or like iverns ult.

thats precise enough, maybe try using your brain.

EvilUnicornLord2 votes

Still looks like whining.

Well, since whining isn't worth my time I'm just gonna ignore your post until it looks professional.

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

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Still looks like whining.

Well, since whining isn't worth my time I'm just gonna ignore your post until it looks professional.

LMFAO, you cant just say its whining even after I told you exactly whats wrong with her and how it should be fixed

i swear to god the average iq of the people on these forums is in the negatives

Dryditch2 votes

I think OP is suggesting Annie lose her stun after X seconds.

EvilUnicornLord2 votes

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I think OP is suggesting Annie lose her stun after X seconds.

Too bad we have to resort to guesses. I was also thinking he was suggesting adding cast time but I'm not sure thanks to his neanderthal levels of clarity.

Dryditch1 votes

Fair enough. The decaying stun would be a nice change though. It would force Annies to be smart about how they play instead of just chucking a Q for stun poke in lane. (Yes, I am tired of seeing annie in every one of my fucking mid games).

EvilUnicornLord1 votes

Perhaps, very few champions get to hold on to abilities indefinitely. Maybe the stun decays one "tick" at a time. The best way to determine what changes are best for Annie is to play her in numerous games until you get an idea of exactly how her stun would decay and if she needs any other changes to compensate.

Dryditch1 votes

I'd actually be totally OK with that. It just means Annie has to actually do something to keep her stun up. Or maybe it should be every spell that hits a target gives a stack of her passive and they fall off after X seconds.

No way to know how that would affect her without building it out for testing.

DemainaNyx1 votes

Personally I would think this would make her more over powered. You get four stacks and, if you want to hold stun to dissuade enemies from attacking, you are now forced to farm with autos. By her stun "falling off", she'd go from having her stun to being at 3 stacks, meaning more Q farming for her. I figured that was her trade off, you can't get the easy ability to CS using Q if you hold stun.

DreamerP1 votes

She's not really a problem if you keep tabs on her Flash and the obvious team mechanic of not grouping...there's also BV which can Spell Shield the Ult. If it were that simple you'd see more of her around but you don't people just assume they can't tank the Bear which isn't going to happen if she has a stun ult plus the rest of a full rotation of spells then a second stun to further cc. It's the same logic as Amumu, don't clump together and you all won't get hit w/ his R.

Wolfess1 votes

if annie has to flash to kill you... well guess what she has no flash again for 5 minutes that's plenty of time for you to ask your jungler or even another lane to come pay her back with interest.

Also, she can hold on to her stun because ANY ability she uses next besides her E shield will USE UP the stun. She doesn't get to keep throwing out abilities and keep her stun always ready on a single ability. Learn to play around this, MAKE her use the abilities to have to farm minions or she will lose a lot of CS.

enjoy.

MysteriousBootie1 votes

You are ignorin the fact that vs intelligent opponents she is very reliant on flash to hit money ults lol

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