"Janna Eye of the Storm (E) bonus AD reduced to 10/17.5/25/32.5/40 from 10/20/30/40/50.
Live value currently 14/23/32/41/50 ]"
Yea fucking right..
Feeling like Riot wants to make every champion go through the "useless phase" when noone wants to pick them for anything else than Normals.
TheLittlestLulu4 votesJanna will never be useless while she has her kit. They could literally delete the AD buff from the shield and she would still have use.
xl Kirito lx1 votesThey could remove the heal from her ult, and she'd still see constant play -
ThaPizzaMan1 votesWhen did she get nerfed? I finally played with a good janna like 2 days ago and she was bae. @Plats & Diamonds It's not like it matters to me cuz "i'm in bronze because i belong in bronze" and since i'm "bronze" i'm too stupid to notice a difference.
colesy1 voteswhat? it's higher elo where janna is worse to play against because people cockblock pretty much everything you do. I ban her every game if possible, she's extremely annoying and her kit has way too much reward for the little risk it forces her to put herself in to. nerfing her ad on the shield means that she isn't as heavily rewarded for just standing around pressing E on the adc and giving them two bf swords of free ad like she can right now.
Aeolian Melodies1 voteswhat? it's higher elo where janna is worse to play against because people cockblock pretty much everything you do. I ban her every game if possible, she's extremely annoying and her kit has way too much reward for the little risk it forces her to put herself in to. nerfing her ad on the shield means that she isn't as heavily rewarded for just standing around pressing E on the adc and giving them two bf swords of free ad like she can right now.
If you give 2 bf swords worth of AD with EotS you have a ridiculous amount of AP.
colesy1 votesbuilding flat ap has actually been a thing recently with janna - she's so safe you can allow yourself to actually deal decent damage off of your q and w in addition to peeling for your carries.
Aeolian Melodies1 votesbuilding flat ap has actually been a thing recently with janna - she's so safe you can allow yourself to actually deal decent damage off of your q and w in addition to peeling for your carries.
A BF sword is 40 AD. 2 BF = 80 AD. Janna base AD buff at EotS rank 5: 50. Scaling on the AD buff from EotS: .1 AP (10 AD every 100 AP she has). Meaning to give anyone 2 BF worth of AD Janna needs to have 300 bonus AP which is easier said than done on a support budget and when you are required to take 3 slots for SS, boots, and income item.
Her most popular and most successful build don't have anything close to 300 AP. They do not even include Mejai.
rtbf2256182411 votesThis AP Janna discussion is giving me cancer.
Aeolian Melodies1 votesWhen did she get nerfed? I finally played with a good janna like 2 days ago and she was bae. @Plats & Diamonds It's not like it matters to me cuz "i'm in bronze because i belong in bronze" and since i'm "bronze" i'm too stupid to notice a difference.
It's not live yet.
rtbf2256182411 votesShe hasn't, yet. It's on PBE and pretty much every balance change on the PBE makes it through.
Dominick Destine1 votesThis has happened literally every season. Janna has been mega-gutted but she always bounces back and inevitably gets nerfed again.
Originally her ult slowed the enemy after the first knockback. Her Q had WAAAAY larger width. Her passive was global and always constant. Her W lasted TEN SECONDS instead of five. Her ratios across the board used to be way better.
Janna is the Queen of getting gutted.... except she always bounces back, always.
Aeolian Melodies1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2FG0AexV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-03-15T23:25:27.227+0000)
This has happened literally every season. Janna has been mega-gutted but she always bounces back and inevitably gets nerfed again.
Originally her ult slowed the enemy after the first knockback. Her Q had WAAAAY larger width. Her passive was global and always constant. Her W lasted TEN SECONDS instead of five. Her ratios across the board used to be way better.
Janna is the Queen of getting gutted.... except she always bounces back, always.
It was her E that lasted 10 sec instead of 5 and it was consistent with other shields in the game at the time.
Her passive was only 3% (2 MS quints) when it was global, and it was as long as Janna lived, not 100% constant.
For the rest you are correct. Actually, you forgot that her double tap Q was longer range, more dmg and more knock up that it is now.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Aeolian Melodies,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2FG0AexV,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-03-15T23:32:08.167+0000)
It was her E that lasted 10 sec instead of 5 and it was consistent with other shields in the game at the time.
Yeah I meant her shield, my mistake.
rtbf2256182411 votesHer passive was dumb as fuck too. I'm totally fine with that.
Her Q didn't match the visuals and this is the change that i approved as a matter of fact.
Her E lasted 10 secs not W wth.
Bounces back with what this time? This Season revolves around damage. She'll pretty much be turned into the Evelynn of Supports.
The previous changes were nessecary nerfs, right now they just want to make everyone lose with her to balance out the win-rate. LIke wtf..
Calabok1 votesGood
Meep Man1 votesJanna isn't going to care about this nerf all that much. She isn't picked entirely for the AD of her shield.
Aeolian Melodies1 votes[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2FG0AexV,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-03-16T00:33:45.281+0000)
Janna isn't going to care about this nerf all that much. She isn't picked entirely for the AD of her shield.
Well, she's going to notice but it's going to be mostly the lvl 1-3 trades (when her shield is still lvl1) that it's going to matter... after the first level it breaks even pretty fast.
AHeroNamedHawke1 votesGood
Hopefully they ruin its AP ratio too
rtbf2256182411 votesConsidering i never go AP i agree.