Darius' Q and ult should scale with attack speed as well.

I say Facts·Oct 6, 2019·1 votes·896 views

Having attack speed items on darius helps his W land faster, but for other champions it scales their speed in general and Garen's Spin. Why doesn't darius also scale his Spin's speed with attack speed? that's only fair. With this happening, an attack speed Darius can at least land 1 spin instead of waiting for enemies to kill him when he just presses 1 Q. Isn't it fair? That'll open more playstyle options for Darius. Tank build is boring really. It'll make him get kited to death.

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GreenKnightOct 6, 20195 votes

Isn't it fair? That'll open more playstyle options for Darius. Tank build is boring really. It'll make him get kited to death.

What, you mean you want one of his only weaknesses removed? Jesus dude.

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

It's always weakness if he builds attack speed. He'll die so fast and so easily. Think of Garen, why not say the same thing about him? he can build attack speed now to scale his spin, and tank to remain a juggernaunt.

GreenKnightOct 6, 20193 votes

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It's not weakness if he builds attack speed. He'll die so fast and so easily. Think of Garen, why not say the same thing about him? he can build attack speed now to scale his spin, and tank to remain a juggernaunt.

Suuure. He will heal with his Q, slow you down with W, apply passive and then execute. At least Garen needs to spend some time actually attacking you to get something from his damage.

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

But healing requires perfect timing, and with w and 3 autos before execute, that's not a death sentence, you will have to keep fighting a lot more to kill, especially if the target is beefier. And taking that amount of time will easily put you to die.

MrFawknSunshineOct 6, 20193 votes

yea he dont need other scalings. he isnt meant to be attack speed based.

and he dont build tank, he builds juggernaut

a mix of damage items with some defensive items to make him durable

he is meant to be kited to death that is his weakness

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

Why not say the same thing about garen? They are both juggernaunts, and Garen was never meant for attack speed, but they made him scale his Spin with attack speed. I am thinking they should do the same thing to Darius because its unfair that these 2 are too far to compare now

MrFawknSunshineOct 6, 20192 votes

just cuz one champ has something dont mean the other is suppose to.

and the garen rework hasnt even came out. and his spin dont currently scale with attack speed.

the amount of spins it does is based on level of the skill

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

I am playing him everyday on PBE, It's going to come to the live server. However, It does matter when him and Darius were close to eachother's level, but now Darius is uncompared with Garen. Garen is stronger than him in everything. Which is why I assumed a speed scaling on Darius' Q will give him some different gameplay as well.

MrFawknSunshineOct 6, 20193 votes

dont need it. darius dont spin in Q multiple of times. he swings the ax one time . so attack speed wouldnt make sense.

now where attack speed helps darius is in the auto reset on W and stacking passive with autos.

but none of his abilities need to scale with AS

just cuz its on PBE dont mean it will make it live

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

An attack speed on charging the swing would make sense, though. Taking forever before spinning is weird, especially if you build attack speed on him.

BeatzBoyFTWOct 6, 20193 votes

Apparently you never played prework Darius where his Q was instant-cast. It was the most toxic crap to fight against back then.

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

Prework Darius was a better champion though

BeatzBoyFTWOct 6, 20192 votes

It's really not. Be glad you didn't get to experience the annoyance to lane against him back then.

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

I never had troubles with the old Darius though, fighting him in 1 v 1 was harder, but in teamfight, he was much easier to counter.

MrFawknSunshineOct 6, 20192 votes

he is doing a big massive swing with a big massive ax , it dont make sense for it to be fast

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

It does no damage when you stand near him, though. While Garen can do 9x his damage to all 5 whether if they are close or not

MrFawknSunshineOct 6, 20192 votes

ok say this with me....

TWO DIFFERENT FUKIN CHAMPS

incase you missed it...

TWO DIFFERENT FUKIN CHAMPS

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

You probably lost so many times against Darius. No wonder why you hate him so much. You need to stop yelling and raging, It's just a fourm about a champion. Why the hate?

MrFawknSunshineOct 6, 20192 votes

that has nothing to do with this. you are trying to say cuz X champ does this then Y champ needs to do it two.

no they dont. if that is the case then we need to give garen darius passive and reset on ult.

do you want that?

why have two champs that do the same things? scales the same way? its just fukin stupid

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

Garen has a better passive, better ultimate, better Spin, better W, better Q

Garen's Q can silence the champion for long duration, while Darius needs to perfect time his Heal to make it worthy

Garen's W can give him a shield to block incoming damage and can scale with killing minions. Also, a tenacity for the duration, while Darius can only slow and deal bonus damage in melee against 1 champion.

Garen's E Spin shreds the armor, can critically strike, scales with attack speed and levels and can kill everything around him in so many spins, while Darius can just pull and penetrate armor physically

Garen's ultimate completely shuts down the target, deals % true damage + flat true damage without stacks required, while darius needs to apply 5 stacks to deal a flat of true damage only.

Garen overall has everything better than Darius, I think Darius needs buffs

MrFawknSunshineOct 6, 20192 votes

clearly you are bias and the stats for win rate , and pick rate and ban rates would say that darius is the stronger of the two.

I say FactsOct 6, 20191 votes

Alright, we'll see when the rework is coming next patch

BeatzBoyFTWOct 6, 20192 votes