certanlyT gets booed at PAX

I FOUND IT. I don't know yet what time he gets booed at though.

http://www.twitch.tv/pax2/c/6270822

To be fair, champion power creep and nerfs have actually made Darius, Zyra, and Yasuo into pretty balanced champs overall. Thresh's kit will always be overladed with utility, and Kalista's mobility is crazy. Zed is in a good spot, other than the fact that he can push way better than mana based mid laners.

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have never been just obnoxious to play against because of their kits.

JK.

people that say Zyra is obnoxious to play against make me cry

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I'm scared to defend CertainlyT, but I think his champions are super fun, albeit at the enemy's expense. I think they need to lose a couple passives and fine tune some numbers, then maybe people would start to like them, maybe.

Maybe.

That's the problem

TBH I just think CertainlyT gives zero fucks about how it feels to play AGAINST the champions he designs.

Seriously, who in their right mind would look at Kalista's passive and go ''Yep, people will find fighting this chick really interactive and fun''??? And she's just the latest misstep

Nobody is saying that they aren't well-designed in the sense that they're fun to play. He nails it in that regard. What he fails at utterly is making champs that are both fun to play as and fun to play against, which I think is the real way you can identify champs as well-designed. I've never played against a Kalista, Yasuo, or Zed and thought, "Oh boy, I'm gonna have a fun game!" Even if I beat the living hell out of them, I don't have fun. Sure, I feel proud that I was able to outplay a CertainlyT champ, but that's about it.

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I'm scared to defend CertainlyT, but I think his champions are super fun, albeit at the enemy's expense. I think they need to lose a couple passives and fine tune some numbers, then maybe people would start to like them, maybe.

Maybe.

While his champions are certainly "fun", that's because he designs them like a hyperactive 12-year old. "Ooh, I know! He should be able to dash through EVERYTHING, like zip zip zip zip zip like those guys in Bleach! And the damage should stack up with each hit because, uh, because he's gaining speed as he goes! And he should be able to throw out the wind so hard it knocks people on the other side of the screen into the air! WHOOSH! And I know what'd be even cooler, if he could use wind to block ANYTHING ANYONE SHOOTS AT HIM! And, and, he should get double crit because he's a samurai and they have the sharpest, coolest swords EVER! And for his ult, he should teleport across the screen to do an awesome combo on anyone who's been knocked in the air, or, or, in the middle of a jump! What? Too much? What do you mean 'too much'? Eh, OK then, just give him a wind shield that automatically goes up when he gets hit because, because, because he's a wind samurai. I think I'll call him... YASUO!"

Seriously, why did Riot even hire him, considering his complete lack of industry experience? And having hired him, why didn't they assign someone reasonable to stand behind him and look over his shoulder saying "No, young padawan, Darius doesn't NEED to gain movement speed every time someone is bleeding" or "No, Zed doesn't NEED to gain a % bonus to his bonus AD for every rank in his W".

For god's sake, his name is short for Certainly True Damage! How many warning signs did you need?!

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And a good Darius is STILL fairly obnoxious to lane against.

Um, no, it's because a lot of people that don't play his champions dislike him for making some of the most overpowered champs in recent years. His champs aren't fun to play against. I actually like Thresh, but at least I can acknowledge that he's overloaded and too strong.

I'm sorry, but if every champ a designer releases is bullshit strong on release, there's 3 possibilities: 1) the kits themselves are poorly designed, which is because the designer isn't good, 2) the balance team is either trying to get more people to buy the champ or don't actually understand the champ, or 3) both 1 and 2. Looking at the release kits of most of his champs, I'm pretty sure it's situation #1 or #2.

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I like almost every one of his champions, they are all unique and engaging to play. kalista is annoying to play against, but you cant say that it isnt fun to jump around.

The problem is just that, they are only fun to play as, but a pain in the ass to go against, its terrible design.

I personally found her jumping to be obnoxious anyway.

Well he did make an awful lot of champions that people hate with a passion.

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While that may seem rude what was the context? Were they/he was talking about something?

at the champion design panel

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lol damn i wonder what would happen if they person that designed riven and nid shows up

Well the guy that made Riv/Ori/Lulu/Fizz/Renekton/Nautilus was hated just as much as CertainlyT before T appeared

That guys name is Xyperhous and he's also responsible for Heimer rework and botrk

At least Xypherous made Nautilus, who's to my knowledge, NEVER been complained about. Every champ CertainlyT has made has been an extreme pain in the ass for people at some point.