If I'm against a Miss Fortune + Blitzcrank lane...

Forever·Dec 16, 2015·63 votes·4,480 views

Do I stand behind the minions or do I not?

The dilemma x_x

55 Comments

VeraskaDec 16, 201534 votes

You stand under your tower, and then give up that tower when they my get to it, and then freeze it from under your 2nd tower

SpoofghoulDec 16, 201528 votes

and then your midlaner can get the middlefinger when blitz permacamps his lane

VeraskaDec 16, 201550 votes

It's in his lane it's his problem now

KnoyleDec 16, 20152 votes

Fizz "I love the sound of metal crunching in the jaws of my ult"

MetalGearTeemuDec 16, 201525 votes

Blitzcrank "I love the sound of my shield humming to life as I proceed to fist a fish. "

IcyPepperDec 17, 201511 votes

Talk about quality dating service.

revliledpembrokeDec 17, 20152 votes

Ohhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyy

Photos of GhostsDec 17, 20151 votes

Wrong sexy robot my friend

Ace Access Dec 17, 20155 votes

Viktor "ah blitz is causing trouble in SR, oh he grew up so fast... well technically he can't grow anything but rust"

windwolf777Dec 17, 20152 votes

2 years later:

Dear summoners, we would like to inform you that Rusty Blitzcrank is now the base skin. To the owners who had it, are all now given a new skin. Retro Blitzcrank

morris1Dec 17, 20151 votes

Hire this guy Rito.

Ace Access Dec 19, 20151 votes

and by then no one will even remember our posts

Just Blame JennyDec 16, 201526 votes

You stand at the fountain. Duh.

Ariel the CruelDec 16, 201522 votes

Braum "Stand behind Braum"

ProfDrDeathDec 16, 201516 votes

Play Lucian / Thresh .

Same dilemma, slightly different execution.

My NyasDec 17, 20151 votes

Wife steal.

Remlap1223Dec 16, 201514 votes

You sit behind the minions, because I don't care how much damage MF's Q does, it's still nowhere near as leathal as getting a 100% AP scaling damage nuke alongside getting yanked into enemy territory.

I'd much rather eat 3 love tap enhanced minion killing Qs than one Blitz hook. At least with MF's Q I don't have to burn flash just because I took Ashe bot lane.

A Miss FortuneDec 16, 20158 votes

3 Love Tap Q's if MF executed the minion would kill you though lol.

Ariel the CruelDec 16, 20154 votes

MF can deal ~500 damage with 1 Q before scaling. At lvl 3.

EDIT: Typo. she does about 300 damage.

Tails DollDec 16, 20153 votes

I'm calling bullshit, show me the math

iamthegoatofwarDec 17, 20152 votes

im going to say he's way off...but i play a lot of MF lately and trust me that shit hurts.

Tails DollDec 17, 20151 votes

I know it hurts, but it wont deal 500 dmg with one Q at lvl 3. That shit is PBE Mundo levels of broken.,

dr lichdeathDec 17, 20156 votes

challenge accepted 47at 3 +15+2(masteries) + 10 long sword = 77 q lvl 2 second attack is 70 +100% ad =147*1.5 crit= 220 lovetap does 46 the technique is aa q aa = 77+46+220+77 =410

erm.... lets add another long sword since she backed early xD 87 157*1.5 =235 lovetap 52 so that would be 87+52+235+87= 461

k i cant reach the 500 challenge failed TT

AnidanDec 17, 20151 votes

That'd be painful as a motherfucker at level 3... o.o Granted, that's a kinda niche situation you can't pull off every game for sure, but damn. The potential is real, and I'm not particularly mad.

DurzakaDec 17, 20155 votes

That IS before armor though. Even base armor is like 30% damage reduction.

And youre talking a 2 AA 1 ability trade. A LOT of ADCs could get pretty close to 450 damage with a trade like that. Not quite there, but close enough without needing a niche set up.

Photos of GhostsDec 17, 20151 votes

Didn't count the bonus damage for killing the minion.

Hopper1313Dec 17, 20151 votes

And keep in mind that her Q can poke you at a maximum of 1150 units, critting if it kills the minion. Leaving you little chance to return damage if you get hit by the Q bounce. And an ult range of 1400 that does 75% of her AD (+20%AP) per wave. At level 16, she gets 16 waves... totaling to 1200% of her AD as damage before armor if you get hit by the entire thing. And each wave can crit for ( 20% x (1 + bonus crit damage)). Even at 0 crit, with 250 AD she does 3000 damage before armor. Over 3 seconds, thats 1000 damage per second, before armor. IMO, her numbers or scaling need to be lowered or something. And if she hits all 5 members of the enemy team... 15k damage over 3 seconds before armor if she has 0 crit chance

Ariel the CruelDec 17, 20151 votes

300, not 500. Typo, my bad. But as for the math: I did that a while back. . .

47AD [base]+ 47AD [love tap] + 62(+70.5) [Double up second hit] = 226.5 If double up kills the first target: 132.5 + 50%[66.25] = 198.75+47+47 = 292.75

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/u8Jda6lw-can-everyone-just-leave-bot-lane?comment=000500000000

Photos of GhostsDec 17, 20151 votes

I prefer not having blitz supp as MF since I don't want all ins. I just want a support who can save my butt if I get in danger to poke.

BârdDec 16, 201511 votes

In the immortal words of Piccolo,

"DOOOOOODGE"

GrashnimDec 16, 20158 votes

Leona them.

WarlordTimDec 17, 20151 votes

{quoted}

them.

Blitzcrank? You mean extra gap closer.

VexfulDec 17, 20155 votes

Braum Pulled by Blitz? You mean jumped to blitz to beat his face in with a door.

PDE5 InhibitorsDec 17, 20154 votes

Poke from MF < getting instakilled from a Blitz Q.

Laughing FishDec 17, 20153 votes

Easy. Your ADC hides behind the minions, and then Soraka heals them from MF's damage.

CasterGilgameshDec 17, 20151 votes

I'm that soraka who does the healing and I approve this message!

Ash HardingDec 16, 20152 votes

You dodge the game in champ select, because MF is way too broken, and shouldnt be allowed in this game

TransgressorDec 17, 20157 votes

I'll take players who get stomped and complain in the boards about it for 5$.

Very Epic GuyDec 17, 20152 votes

I propose you stand in the minions.

DeathBurstDec 16, 20151 votes

You stand behind the minions, but not aligned with MF. Not easy to do, granted.

Chaotic SageDec 16, 20152 votes

Best advice. I'd suggest playing MF a few time as well, to learn the radius behind the minions that her Q can hit.

iamthegoatofwarDec 17, 20151 votes

I've play a lot of MF and this is borderline annoying to do. here's the thing the targeting Used to work like this (not sure if it still does)

Enemy champions in a 40° cone marked by Love Tap. Enemy or neutral units within a 20° cone. Enemy champions within a 20° cone. Enemy or neutral units within a 40° cone. Enemy champions within a 40° cone. Enemy or neutral units within a 110° cone. Enemy or neutral units within a 150-range 160° cone.

It feels like this is not how it works at all. Also this is supposed to be in order of targeting priority. What I've noticed is that it seems to be ignoring the 20 degree cone on champions if an enemy minion is within the 40 degree cone.

BeldairDec 16, 20151 votes

My bot team can beat those two when i am Braum, Maokai, Syndra, Lulu, Bard, Sona, Morgana, or Gragas.

HenryDahNewbDec 16, 20151 votes

stand to the side of the minions away from the 60 degree angle that MissFortune 's q has?

TransgressorDec 17, 20151 votes

You stand behind your minions far enough for the MissFortune Q to prioritize a minion instead of you, usually stand behind the casters. That's enough distance to have a shield from Blitzcrank 's hooks and avoid poke at the same time.

Blue Moon WolfDec 17, 20151 votes

You stand behind 2 minions. The first one for Blitz's Q, the second for MF's Q. How you kill minions from that distance if you have a short attack range is another problem though .__.

DracosKasuDec 17, 20151 votes

Or just pray that you get Leona as support and make blitz grab her and cash in to their adc. Alway work for me

sreggadDec 17, 20151 votes

So what your saying is. you pimp out leona to blitz and get paid while they are busy love taping that leona.

BladegloryDec 17, 20151 votes

I had a Poro King match today as Miss Fortune with an allied Fiddlesticks. The enemy team didn't know where to run. If they stood near minions to diffuse the bird, they risked getting chunked by Double Up. If they stood away from the minions, they got hit by all 5 bird bounces.