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He has maintained #1 jungle win rate for at least 5 patches now, all with a decent pickrate (according to na.op.gg). You'd think more people would notice this and try to bring attention to it.
Big Lincoln3 votesbecause he's a support and evidently 55% winrates on supports doesn't mean they're too strong 
McFatal3 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=22ggPsec,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-05T18:17:03.082+0000)
because he's a support and evidently 55% winrates on supports doesn't mean they're too strong
hes a jungler lol.
Big Lincoln1 voteshe's a jungle support
???
Irelia Bot3 votesHe is the Janna of the Jungle.
He does not feel broken but is really effective.
dominusx3 votesbecause most ppl here are low elo and dont know how cancerous an ivern that isnt shutdown is. Or how easy it is to dive people with him.. He is a horrible champion design that should have never made it out of paper.
Zero Skill Tank1 votesThat + junglers are broken in general ATM, so that kind of takes attention away from the most broken one.
McFatal2 voteshe is ap so hes obviously balanced but if he was ad he would hve gotten hotfixed already and the boards would have started a riot over an ad champ being strong whatsoever
Oleandervine2 votesWhere are your stats from again? Champion.gg has him at an 88% play rate in the jungle with a 53% winrate. He also has a 3.1% playrate from about 4000 games, as compared to Lee's 25% playrate (49% win rate) from 30,000 games, Vi's 15% playrate (54% win rate) from 15,000 games, Hecarim's 11% playrate (51% win rate) from 11,000 games. The fact is, Ivern isn't played very much at all, those playing him are probably devoted mains - therefore, his stats are currently skewed due to the lack of data to make adequate statistics.
BluePolarizer2 votesWhere are your stats from again? Champion.gg has him at an 88% play rate in the jungle with a 53% winrate. He also has a 3.1% playrate from about 4000 games, as compared to Lee's 25% playrate (49% win rate) from 30,000 games, Vi's 15% playrate (54% win rate) from 15,000 games, Hecarim's 11% playrate (51% win rate) from 11,000 games. The fact is, Ivern isn't played very much at all, those playing him are probably devoted mains - therefore, his stats are currently skewed due to the lack of data to make adequate statistics.
nope he has one of the lowest champion experiences in the jungle (I believe 2nd lowest) thus 1st time Iverns are dominating, not mains.
AMYS GRAVE2 votesBecause his kit is simply overtuned and fixable with numbers tweaks and isn't fundamentally broken. He also got nerfs in 6.24 as well as the 6.24 hotfix and i think they are looking at some more nerfs soon.
Dreadlocks1 votesHe's not played a lot in lower elo and that wut the boards are.
Ultra Rapid Fyre1 votesmost people bitching in the boards are playing blind pick or low elo ranked, neither of which ivern excells in .. hes more of a high elo stealth monster though
kasfas1 votesIt's because I been doesn't feel broken. He doesn't remove a players agency to do stuff around him, as well as he doesn't have the damage to get any kills. He's not a frustrating champion to face and therefore if he's good no one complains, unless of course he's SUPER overturned like he was on release.
RlP K0BE1 votesBecause Ivern is only used in high elo. The boards consists mostly of lower elo players who are too busy complaining about champions who aren't nearly as broken like 
ChíckenDaddy1 votesBecause he's not toxic to fight(considering his winrate)
Danjeng1 votesIvern is a very strong pick, no doubt about that. But he's just one of those well-designed champions that, even when they are overtuned, you do not mind going against one. Jhin is another instance of this. Top-tier ADC for ages, but everybody just loves him, and I can't blame them. He's fairly designed, straightfoward, has clear strengths weaknesses, and his theme is just lovely. Could use some tuning to bring them down a notch, but they are healthy champions (or considered so) at their core.
Somebody like Garen, when strong, is not fun to go against at all. He'll just charge up your ass with his superior stats. His level 100 armor and weapon set is too powerful to fight against, he's like an RPG paladin. I do still play Garen, though. While his gameplay his boring, you have to admit his visuals are glorious, especially the execute.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesI have to disagree with this.
Ivern is my most hated champion to face due to how difficult punishing him (or killing anyone near him) is and how easily he can steal your jungle.
The only reason I don't perma-ban him is because there are other annoying champions who are more likely to be picked.
Danjeng1 votesI have not played against many Ivern's, but his champion design seems wacky, just the way he strolls through the rift. So I can't really speak for the experience.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesI like the character, his quotes and his walking animation.
I hate having to play against him.
SaltyKracka1 votesYou don't see him in competitive so much, and unlike Kha or Rango he doesn't just show up out of nowhere and burst you down.
iLLp1 votesbecause the idiots in low elo build him squishy so they fail constantly with him
he may be a jungler, but he's one of us.... in his heart.
