Mages and Reliability

Shirotaki·Feb 3, 2020·6 votes·2,450 views

Many mages are too unreliable. The advantage a mage gets from being ranged compared to an ADC is much smaller. Mages that are blocked by minions, like Morgana, have to land an unreliable ability to even deal any damage to opponents. This makes matchups into champions that don't rely on skillshots very hard and almost impossible to win.

TL;DR - Mages that rely on skillshots or that are completely blocked by minions in lane should be made more reliable with spell width or radius increases. There is such a thing as too much counterplay.

Examples of Hard to Win With Mages -Morgana -Lux -Xerath -Malzahar -Karthus

Examples of Balanced Mages -Orianna -Anivia -Viktor -Ahri

Examples of Easy to Win With Mages -Vladimir -Cassiopeia -Aurelion Sol -Ryze

11 Comments

WaaaarrrrgggghhhFeb 3, 20205 votes

Morgana Q has to be blocked by minions because the hit box is fucked.

Panthaz89Feb 4, 20201 votes

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Morgana Q has to be blocked by minions because the hit box is fucked.

and getting hit by it is basically a death sentence especially with no tenacity.

TobykachuFeb 3, 20202 votes

Of course Morgana Q is blocked by minions? It would be absurdly broken if it wasn't. Skill shots generally have other advantages tied to them. Xerath has some of the highest range in the game if he can hit his abilities, Lux and Morgana can CC enemies with their Q's and a Karthus that lands all of his Q's has some of the highest damage output in the game.

AshesandCinderFeb 4, 20201 votes

But Neeko E has about the same range, speed, and root duration as Morgana Q while piercing through minions. I don't think I've seen many people complain about Neeko's root despite it basically being Morg Q that goes through minions, which is apparently absurdly broken.

ProphetOfDravenFeb 4, 20201 votes

Because it HAS to go through minions? Otherwise it lasts like .5 seconds.

TobykachuFeb 4, 20201 votes

Ahh yes, but you see, Neeko is a champion released within the last couple of years, therefore she does not follow regular conventions of having counterplay.

HP CrookshanksFeb 3, 20201 votes

You forgot the most unreliable mage Ziggs .

CuddleAndCookiesFeb 3, 20202 votes

Well they buffed his damage over the top... But he still lags behind in what matters in the end - winning games...

And they would need to go even more bonkers if they want to make him viable in high-elo, more like re-work needed for that... As more damage will make him OP in low-mid elo and abused in other roles.

ZairelFeb 3, 20201 votes

Only 1 that is between is Karthus cause jungle Karthus is like twice as easy than mid lane Karthus .

vgamedudeFeb 3, 20201 votes

"easy to win with ryze"

lol

ProphetOfDravenFeb 4, 20201 votes

If Ryze is so easy to win with, why does he have a 45% winrate? I'll tell you why, because hes the hardest mage to play in the game. One of the lowest ranged mages in the game with nothing for survivability except a measly speed boost. He doesn't get the same luxury other scaling mages have either like Cassiopeia Vladimir and Kassadin with point and click or huge AOE damage abilities. All of his damage is put into fluxed Q's and due to the loss of W root he can no longer QWEQ for guarantee'd fluxed damage. Ryze also has to deal with his Q getting blocked by nonfluxed minions, except he doesn't get the luxury of 1200 range on his CC like Lux Xerath Morgana do.

Lux can't have one of the highest ranges in the game, with good damage to boot, and point and click cc, just not how balance works.

Assuming this is the match your talking about. https://imgur.com/a/XUY2T2J You are playing a champion that heavily relies on her ranged advantage and vision advantage to oneshot people through fog of war, seeing as that is the case, buying literally zero control wards for the entire game, with yellow trinket at 30 minutes is not the best path to victory. The enemy team literally has a "hard to win with" mage on their team being Morgana. Also you built seraphs and voidstaff, while the enemy team has literally zero MR at all, and Lux is a heavily ludens reliant champion.

Conclusion. Lux isn't hard to win with, you are just playing her incorrectly.