Kha'Zix and wards

SanKakU··3 votes·1,128 views

Edit: okay maybe I was wrong, maybe not...about the loss of vision due to enemy wards. What I do know is that high grass protects players from Kha'Zix's isolation for some reason. I thought it didn't used to work like that so I guess I'm an idiot.

Wards can make a champion not isolated which means Kha'Zix and his team can't see them. If he catches someone all alone, all they have to do is put down a ward nearby and all of a sudden they're not isolated anymore. This not only makes it harder to tell if they are going to get reinforcements or not, but it also means that even if Kha'Zix is confident they are not being reinforced, he still can't do extra damage with his Q.

I've been finding the main way to win with Kha'Zix generally is to get the Sightstone myself and the Red trinket. Then you can kill wards so your Q does damage, but the opponent always has the ability to just slam a ward down in the middle of a skirmish and wreck your 3 second cooldown ability's damage.

What will RIot do about this? Nothing? It's been somewhat oppressive for Kha'Zix ever since they introduced the trinkets. One idea is to not let a ward count as an ally for the purposes of isolation. Another might be to add something to Kha'Zix's kit so that he doesn't have to get a sweeper or so that getting one is more attractive. Does that mean he should be able to kill wards without detecting them(for example, if you activate your ultimate and a ward is within X range while you're invisible, it expires instantly)? Or maybe detect them easier? The Raptor Smite buff can only do so much work.

There is a big difference in his effectiveness when the opponents don't know how Kha'Zix works. They don't just throw down wards to protect themselves from him, at least not in situations where it wouldn't help against any other champion. And he's able to do his job without performing all this extra preparation work. I don't mind terribly buying a different trinket but I find it annoying that I have to effectively play a 5 item slot champion if I want to pick him. Even as a support, and when I get a tier 3 gold income item, I still may sell it at late game, while Kha'Zix has to trade some Q damage for his final item...it just doesn't make sense to me.

5 Comments

Kaioko1 votes

I don't see it as a big issue considering nearly all junglers should be getting the red trinket and kha zix can kill someone before they even have time to put down a ward.

I'd be fine with him getting that buff if they remove the reset on his jump in exchange then :D

SanKakU1 votes

I'm not sure I understand what you're going on about here. If Kha'Zix is your opponent, you will keep your yellow trinket because it cuts down on Kha'Zix's lowest cooldown ability's damage, wouldn't you? If not then I think you'll make his job a lot easier. If you're regularly getting a smite upgrade other than chilling, then I also do not understand. I've never had success with those others.

Weathered1 votes

I haven't had someone do this nor have I seen this as a Kha'Zix main. Could you post a short video of it?

SanKakU1 votes

A replay won't show the interaction very well(there is no isolation debuff on the unit) but a live game would. I'll get on that.

SanKakU1 votes

Actually I think I might be confused as to what is going on. It doesn't seem like Kha'Zix's isolation works if the enemy is in a bush. I thought it did. I just loaded up a replay where I lost sight of a top laner and I thought he had planted a ward but when I checked the replay, he didn't.

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