I'm at my Wit's End here

Rebonack··3 votes·386 views

Guh, this item.

At what point would this item ever be an attractive pick over Maw?

Problem is, it can't compete with the late game power picks nor is it a nice mid-game power spike any longer. It doesn't do anything of any particular note. I was really disappointed that it got passed over by the Juggy update and the Marksmen update apart from being made worse.

But there's hope! Or at least I can hope Riot finally gives this item a place in the game. Here's the idea in two steps.

  1. Wit's End now builds out of item 1033 item 1043 and a combine cost. It gives 42 OnHit magic damage and its old stacking (but not stealing) MR buff. It would probably end up with only 30% IAS and 25 base MR to keep the cost low. This would exist as a nice mid-game power spike item with the option to upgrade.

  2. Wit's End now builds into Madred's Bloodrazor (item 3091 item 2015 item 1043 ). It's MR stacking OnHit becomes an MR stealing OnHit and its 42 OnHit damage becomes 4.2% Max HP OnHit damage. The Energize effect deals an additional 4.2% HP and steals an additional 25 MR. This would make it the highest single-item source of magic resist and the MR stealing would help combat the trend of magic resist inflation that we've been seeing of late (core MR items jumping from 50 to 70 over the years). This would be a fairly expensive item, probably in the 3.5K range at least.

So there you go. Making Wit's (and its upgrade) well worth purchasing.

7 Comments

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

Upvoted for the title*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

ADepressedLeona1 votes

Wits End does need some love. I'd be a great item for tanky brawlers who work well with attack speed

Erockandroll1 votes

Looking at the changes, Maw was buffed. Probably so that it could be a competitive build option. (aside from people just getting the Hex drinker and leaving their)

The only way I could see Wit's end working now is on High AS champs, which would only include Devourer Junglers, And possibly Kog.

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Wits End does need some love. I'd be a great item for tanky brawlers who work well with attack speed

The problem with that is that Wit's doesn't give you enough dueling stats early with it's components. If we had a Mini Wit's that built into it, I could see that working. My guess is that riot really wouldn't support it as a Bruiser items, because it works so well when attacking. Creating a scenario where your too tanky when you're already clobbering the enemy, and worthless everywhere else. So Riot would probably prefer pushing it as a damage "on hit" item, rather than a duelist item.

Rebonack1 votes

My guess is that riot really wouldn't support it as a Bruiser items, because it works so well when attacking.

Wit's has always been a Heavy Fighter sorta item. But if the MR were just removed in favor of MOAR attack speed, that could potentially work. Just swap out the Null in the build for another Dagger. Then you've got a balls to the walls OnHit magic damage item.

I would personally prefer to see the defensive component remain, but a super attack speed item is in fact something the game is missing right now.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

with end gives 25 mr pene

Dominick Destine1 votes

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with end gives 25 mr pene

The word "Pene" means pen*s in my native language.

Rebonack1 votes

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with end gives 25 mr pene

Gives 25 MR shred.

If it gave 25 MR Pen as well that would be pretty neat.

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