Why is Poacher's Dirk even an item?

Zen Ineth·Dec 1, 2016·1 votes·1,275 views

I can understand the reason to put the item in -- it allows you to gain stats effectively for "free", while allowing the Lethality to scale up with levels (which come with time.) The main problem is that it's entirely unnecessary. It encourages laners to roam and pick up an extra camp for the gold, but that only works if that laner is ahead. The only time you would be able to leave lane without giving stuff up is if you've pushed your enemy laner to tower, and have a comfortable advantage.

But then, if you have an advantage, why don't you have the additional 400 gold required to get a full Serrated Dirk? The whole intention of the item is paradoxical. It's meant for people who don't need to buy it.

12 Comments

RexSaurDec 1, 20162 votes

If you are ahead you dont want to build a lethality item in the first place, as those are awful atm.

Zen InethDec 1, 20161 votes

Yeah, there's that as well :v

EschetonDec 1, 20161 votes

It's so there is something rewarding counterjungling. Like the old pouchers smite.

Purple DeathDec 1, 20161 votes

its honestly just stupid. The idea is cool and encourages counter jungling as a laner but I don't think it gives you much. If it had a 10s cooldown and you only had to grab 2 camps it might worth it to pick up if you get it later in the build. As it is currently nobody wants to pick it up because it's unnecessary.

Zen InethDec 1, 20161 votes

Pretty much this. You lose too much if you go and counterjungle as a laner, since the camps are designed to be tougher to take for a smiteless player. And, in the 3+ minutes it takes for the item to get to full, you will most certainly have made more than the remaining required gold to get the upgrade item.

Face The LewdDec 1, 20161 votes

yeah because this item is meant for laners and not junglers totally

bad arcade kittyDec 1, 20161 votes

that's an item to let them snowball harder

pretty much the same design like with dragons

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 1, 20161 votes

well there is a pro and con to everything you do... every item you build, when you back or dont back , roam etc.

you have to manage what is worth and whats not

you have that option use your mind and make proper choices that is half of winning

Denims Wrath666Dec 1, 20161 votes

well its not meant for laners actually. mind as well complain about the lack of lifesteal on minions with jungle items bud

Zen InethDec 1, 20161 votes

But which junglers are going to viably build Poacher's Dirk and limit their combat effectiveness by buying a lesser item? I mean, 400 gold is easy to come by in the jungle. Just go find 3 camps to counter and you'll have a finished Serrated Dirk in about 40 seconds, rather than have to wait upwards of three minutes.

But yeah, aside from Lee Sin, which jungler would build Serrated Dirk?

Denims Wrath666Dec 1, 20161 votes

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