Phase rush + celerity + nimbus cloak+ approach velocity. On a slowed marksmen. And I still can't chase them down. The game ended before I could finish Deadman's. Not that it would have made a difference. Marksmen movement speed needs to be looked at
Doge20206 votesGimme some context here so I can help you. Were you trying to chase them or were you trying to get to the back line in a team fight? What champ were you playing as? I play a bunch of immobile champs like nasus and Garen and I don’t have a lot of trouble catching my targets. But that is because they usually stupidly walk up in range of my wither or I can flash+q+r them.
AR URF3 votesGimme some context here so I can help you. Were you trying to chase them or were you trying to get to the back line in a team fight? What champ were you playing as? I play a bunch of immobile champs like nasus and Garen and I don’t have a lot of trouble catching my targets. But that is because they usually stupidly walk up in range of my wither or I can flash+q+r them.
Lol you get down voted just for asking a reasonable question.
Thefrostyviking4 votesImma take a wild guess and say that you were playing mordekaiser.
And that you were kinda CC'ed too, or playing against Tristana or someone similar who just jumped away.
And you cant proc phase rush without hitting 3 abilities/autos so you had at some point gotten into melee, so either you never got it activated or someone stunned you to deny the usage of it.
To confirm this i just checked your OG,GG.
And dude, you were playing against Jhin, with ghostblade, 
(anti slow galore) and a bard.
You are simply not going to gapclose those two, ever, without flash, if it wasnt bad enough that jhin gets movespeed for crits and his 4th shot and has a root in his W and a slow in his E along with his above mentioned items there is still bard with a stun/slow and slows built into his first few auto attacks.
OP you seriously need to stop making baseless demands, many marksmen have already gotten slow enough that only the slowest clunkiest and most immobile melee are the only ones who cant catch them.
Go demand morde be reworked like the cultured morde mains rather than demand others be nerfed to his level <.<
Sire Hippington2 voteswell, they just got another ms item with 
, so yea...
I still don't see why they need to get that much ms on their core gear while most others have to sacrifice quite some stuff to attain aditional mobillity.
Since the Luden's changes, the only AP-MS items are pretty niche, Tanks/fighters either get banner and are tied to turrets for ms or deadmen's and give up waveclear and damage from sunfire or increased tankiness and an aoe slow from randuins.
ADC just get any zeal item and have their ms...
rtbf2234347212 votesTalking about crit based ADC's; I think it is because they need to buy full glass canon and positioning is the factor that determines if they can use that power or not.
Bad positioning in the role of ADC most of the time means imediate death, some have 1 safety net but those skills tend to have long cooldowns.
Sire Hippington2 votesthey have range and their kits for that, not to forget the peel of their team. They don't have to be able to kite a fighter all on their own. The issue with adc is that they seem to be balanced aound beeing self-sufficient, which causes them to be broken when actually played around properly.
Also, positioning is a factor for about anyone, a melee that can't position close to his target is won't do anything, which is why it's problematic if it's targets can stay away reliably.
It's not supprising that the highest pick ban melees in high elo, 
, both have insane amounts of mobillity paired with good lockdown. Right now, that's the kind of overloaded kit you need as a melee if you want a chance to carry.
rtbf2234347211 votesConsidering a balanced game
Before they finish 2 itens; 1vs1 situations ignoring tower presence; You win.
Lane fase 2 vs 2. They don't have dueling capabilities. They get bullied in lane. They need to farm. Anyone can capitalize by ganking on them and score a kill if they made a mistake/ dont play it SUPER safe. They RELY on the support to be able to farm and survive. If they cant farm they will fall behind.
After they finish 2 itens (
+
);
1vs1 situations:
The range that ADC's have at their disposal can be nullified easily in the absence of the peel a suport or team provides.
There are many melee champions with movement abilities that can nullify that range.
Mages can poke and 100-0 them with burst.
Assassins can close the gap and 100-0 burst them.
Tanks can kill them if they play their cards right.
1vs2 situations: You are going to engage the adc and the support alone... If you have a gap closer and burst damage: You can 100-0 the adc and proceed to kill the support and score a double kill. If you have a gap closer and dont have burst damage: You will test your abilities to outplay 2 ppl, you can win if u play your cards right. If you dont have gap closer and dont have burst damage: You will feed 1 kill for the adc.
After they finish more than 2 itens; 1 vs 1 situations: If you can 100-0: You win. If you cant 100-0 but you are a damage dealer: You will need to play your cards right. If you cant 100-0 and you are not a damage dealer: You will feed 1 kill for the adc.
Team fights assuming the only problematic carry is the ADC: If the adc team and/or support can peel and your team focus him: He dies, you win team fight. If the adc team and/or support can peel and your team don't focus him: You will all die, you lose team fight.
If the adc team and/or support can peel and your team focus him and FAIL to kill him: You all die, you lose team fight. If the adc team and/or support can peel and your team focus him and SUCCEED to kill him: He dies, you win team fight.
-Range can only be a litle more problematic in the presence of machanics like Kiting and/or Orb Walk, not all Adc's use this tecniques and you cant balance a role only thinking on them. -ADCs are not self-sufficient they can only be considered good in SOME situations. -They have a Role to perform like many other champions and abide by the rules of that Role. -Positioning is punished the most on the ADC role. -And the consequences of bad positioning by ADCs define (most of the time) the win or loss of the team fights/ games.
This is my 2 cents. Downvote and keep your theories that Crit ADC is a broken class, when you could just learn how to deal with them... most of the times there is 1 in each team.
But ppl normally don't like to learn.
Mordepool2 votesThat's exactly my point
Doge20201 votesThat's exactly my point
Well then maybe try main other champs that have more mobility? Either that or get more tenacity in your runes/items
Mordepool1 votesTenacity is a garbage stat why. Build it
Doge20201 votesTenacity is a garbage stat why. Build it
I have a Garen build that lets me turn morg q (which is around 3 sec root) into less than 1 sec. and if you are getting cc’ed a lot then tenacity will help shake off the cc and let you hit people with your abilities and build up your shield. But if you don’t want to build tenacity then build flat resistances so you can tank damage easier.
Doge20201 votesTenacity is a garbage stat why. Build it
Friendly tip: you can edit your comments and posts, so you don’t accidentally communicate the wrong thing to somebody. I have done it lots of times and it is not fun having to clean up a mess from a misunderstanding that was left out for too long.
Mordepool1 votesTy for the tip.
Bonipherus1 votesmaybe this is why 
is kinda good right now
Warlord Rhinark1 votesIf ADCS ACTUALLY take Phase rush + celerity + nimbus cloak+ approach velocity over Precision then they deserve to outrun you.
Mordepool1 votesThat's the runes I had
Warlord Rhinark1 votesThat's the runes I had
Well pardon me for the misunderstanding, good sir.
It wasn't made clear enough in the post.
Mordepool1 votesYeah it was a bit frustrated at the time. So my post didn't receive the same scrutiny I usually give them