Triumph is insane, especially on high HP pool champions.

Bârd·Jan 15, 2018·4 votes·967 views

Dangerous game was a good mastery; one of the better basic masteries in the old system.

Triumph gives more than double the health of Dangerous Game did.

It's not uncommon to see a tank or juggernaut restore over a thousand health in a teamfight just off of this rune. I have personally survived situations in which I 100% should have died because a buddy got a kill on somebody I tagged with Skarner Q several seconds earlier.

I advise you revert Triumph to dangerous game's functionality.

Heal reduced to 5% missing HP from 12%.
Heal delay removed.
Gold bonus removed.
Additionally restores 5% missing mana/energy.

17 Comments

AhristocatsJan 15, 20183 votes

one thousand hp healing on juggernauts?

i wonder which juggernaut had 10 000 hp

sutora3Jan 15, 20181 votes

cho gath well cho gath isnt exactly a juggernaut but he could fill that

BârdJan 15, 20181 votes

No, Juggernaut is an apt description.

He has Rupture, which is more CC than most juggernauts have, but it's unreliable enough that it doesn't really solve his issues with getting kited.

Critmaster GarenJan 15, 20183 votes

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one thousand hp healing on juggernauts?

i wonder which juggernaut had 10 000 hp

which juggernaut was missing 10 000 hp.

BobaFlautistJan 15, 20182 votes

Over the course of a fight. Multiple procs. Divide that number by 3-5

BârdJan 15, 20183 votes

If you have 4k HP and are on the verge of death, Triumph heals you for 480.

If that happens twice, you'll heal for 960.

Something very notable about Triumph is that if multiple people die simultaneously, you get the full heal for both. This makes those fat heals a lot more common.

AhristocatsJan 16, 20181 votes

i don't see the problem

2 people died, and that's not something easy to achieve additionally i rarely saw a juggernaut going intot he precision tree EVEN in 2ndary

bywords70Jan 15, 20181 votes

I think dangerous game worked off of assists which is why it is more consistent if it was changed to 5% without assists then its useless

BârdJan 15, 20181 votes

Triumph procs on assists.

bywords70Jan 15, 20181 votes

if it does, they need to reword it because it says champion takedowns, dangerous game said kills and assist. if its 12% on assist as well then this rune is broken as hell w t f? that's legit 60% missing health in a team fight

Alex h8721Jan 15, 20181 votes

takedowns are kills you participated in, kills/assists

SEKAIJan 15, 20181 votes

Where's the nerf hammer when you need 'em?

I think they just added the budget for the mana portion of the Dangerous Game onto Triumph or something, given Dangerous Game is now split into Triumph and Presence of Mind. But then again, I do wonder from time to time on whether or not the current iteration of Triumph has too much of a value to that end.

Soraka is SO HOTJan 15, 20181 votes

Unrelated, but I believe you played Bard support with lolTyler1?

Just wanted to say awesome job!

I loved watching your Bard skills!!!

[sg-jinx]

BârdJan 15, 20181 votes

Thanks!

hhaavviikkJan 15, 20181 votes

it's even worse in ARAM, constant bloody heals there, makes for a big snowball effect

RexxieeJan 15, 20181 votes

They should make it scale on AD/AP and reduce the base value.

Would make it weaker on tanks and juggernauts and stronger on glass cannons, and a rune like dangerous game or triumph was never intended to be used by tanks, but by carries or assassins/melees who have high risk/high reward gameplay patterns.

BârdJan 15, 20181 votes

Maybe, but then I'm pretty sure Vladimir would break it.