For the next time URF, could we remove the AR part but instead have this instead:

abdul569··21 votes·2,553 views

After each day, the total number of games is veiwed for each champ (that's possible, right?). The champs that have playrates that make them the top 3-10 is then then perma banned for the following few days on URF.

This allows you to choose who you want (out of those not permabanned), but removes the staleness that comes from seeing the same op champs each day.

Thoughts?

34 Comments

Head Connoisseur9 votes

The suggestion I saw that I liked was this:

Every game gives a random pool of 45 champions to pick from. Each team gets 3 bans. Blind pick from the remaining champions.

Loon op Zand1 votes

Why not 5 bans each team?

doiminat0r36001 votes

Because that limits to 35 total champions. Then you only have 25 that weren't picked at all. It's a lower chance the champ you want will get banned.

Loon op Zand1 votes

Who says we have to use only 45 champions? Just raise that amount of number.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Literally OC says 45 champions.

Every game gives a random pool of 45 champions to pick from. Each team gets 3 bans. Blind pick from the remaining champions.

Loon op Zand1 votes

Oh god i know i am not supposed to flame people at the boards so i am not going to but it was a suggestion... You can change the number 45 in a higher amount... You aren't creative are you?

doiminat0r36001 votes

But you don't get it. You directly referenced OC's comment. If I used the same logic against you, then why not give 5 bans per player? That's creative right?

You could change the number to a higher number but that isn't what OC said. You can't be a dick on the internet if you don't understand the conversation in the first place.

Loon op Zand1 votes

But you don't have to follow OC's comment... That's what you make of it. Think outside the box pl0x.

Michael Sykes1 votes

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Why not 5 bans each team?

I think that might even come

Loon op Zand1 votes

I hope so.

LankPants1 votes

I like a variation of this, each team gets 5 bans, then every individual player gets offered a choice between 3 champs out of the entire remaining pool.

Gets rid of the worst champs, gives some choice but also stops the whole must pick champs in every game thing.

greekvandaL3 votes

or you could give us bans so we get rid of toxic champs. but what do we know. not like WE play the game

Arsenic Sulfur3 votes

They play it too. There were like, 18 common picks anyway so you were only going to ban out 6 picks and get beaten down by the rest of them.

abdul5697 votes

Not enough bans for Blitzcrank Brand Cassiopeia Camille DrMundo Ekko Evelynn Ezreal Fizz Garen Hecarim Jayce Karthus Kassadin Katarina Leblanc Lux Malzahar Maokai Morgana Ryze Shaco Vladimir Zed

Mcloved5 votes

you forgot a few Alistar Chogath LeeSin Riven Singed Shen XinZhao Urgot Trundle Swain Thresh

RavenMagus1 votes

The problem is, how do you even decide who's OP/toxic and who's not?

I don't personally think Shen, Singed, Trundle, Katarina, Malz, Vlad, Zed, Brand, Mundo, Garen, Cassi, Blitz are even that bad at all.

Meanwhile both lists somehow missed Wukong who is completely impossible to deal with unless you have the right tools in your kit (I watched a Wukong 100-0 a Nexus with four people unable to stop the perma-invis clone spam).

Kledy McKledFace2 votes

I think its hard to do for riot :P

hhaavviikk1 votes

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I think its hard to do for riot :P

they have permanently disabled about 20 champions the 1st time urf came around after a couple of days so it doesn't appear to be too hard.

Jinzo Torrance1 votes

Why? Why they can't permaban Zed, Heca, Eve etc. instantly? They have no problem doing it with Karthus and Teemo in One For All.

Arsenic Sulfur1 votes

With Teemo in One For All, post-6 you couldn't take one step without getting blown up by shrooms. That wouldn't be fun for anyone and being forced to go an unoptimal build or lose all vision is bullshit.

Jinzo Torrance1 votes

Because Zed is different on URF? You can't lane post-3. There are bans on One For All for a reason.

Aistoupus1 votes

That's why I think you should be able to get the vision potion like you do in ARAM.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

That system doesnt make much sense though. You ban the top op and then the next best reign until they are banned. you would essentially just have a constantly decreasing pool and as players favorite champs are banned they would have less reason to play it.

abdul5691 votes

as supposed to not getting your favourite champs anyway while the enemy gets all the good champs while you're stuck with Braum

Veltox1 votes

Did you ever try the glorious As on hit Braum ?

Irelia Bot1 votes

Because playing a game mode that shows several things wrong with league but exponentially worse is some how fun?

Kingnewgameplus1 votes

Actually, with 10 bans, you can sift through all of the bullshit urf has to offer while allowing variety.

Mogarl1 votes

Or do an Urf leagues, group the disgustingly powerful with the disgustingly powerful, the strong with the strong, and the mediocre with the mediocre. Shift champions up and down leagues until most of them are reasonable. If this would split the urf player base too far for a healthy que; Riot can put the different leagues up on different weekends. Now instead of having one game-mode with 20 overused champions you have 3 game-modes with 60 overused champions.

If it worked out well Riot could just split all the champions up into leagues of 25-30.

Faceroll Tactics1 votes

So it becomes Pokémon smogon rule sets?

Mogarl1 votes

Maybe? I don't actually know what that rule set is, and a quick google search didn't give any clear answer. From the little I picked up, I think so.

Faceroll Tactics1 votes

Smogon rules:

Uber tier OU tier UU tier RU tier NU tier

Every Pokémon falls into one of these tiers depending on how powerful they are. Each tier up can be mixed with the ones below it. For example, you can play a RU Pokémon in Ubers but not an Uber in RU.

Neclord1 votes

Make it an open pick where we can see what the opponent is picking. That way if I see my opponents have locked Zed, Shaco, and Evelynn I can pick the same bullshit in response.

Backup4now1 votes

Or make it so you can't pick the same champ for (champion pool /3) games. shrug

Revali1 votes

I am actually convinced the 'all random' part doesn't exist, I have gotten almost nothing but repeats everygame.

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