Daily Reminder to Upgrade Your Wards

doiminat0r3600·May 30, 2015·45 votes·1,702 views

As a support main, it is hard to keep a sightstone around all game. Especially when Mage assassins are becoming so prevalent now. With how easily they snowball now, their main source of snowballing is from them roaming to other lanes. WARD Please! So the support can put pressure on other lanes and do more than just warding for the entire team and they dont waste a spot on something that is 800 gold vs each person buying a 250 trinket item that gives lots of wards.

34 Comments

Aeolian MelodiesMay 31, 20157 votes

As a support main, I'd just be happy if people placed their freebie ward.

PikmintsMay 31, 20154 votes

Marksmen, I know that you're busy securing cs, harassing, and keeping your squishy backside from getting out of position, but there's little to no reason for you not to throw your trinket down when you can. There are about 4 points that are good to control around bot lane, the two lane bushes, river bush, and tri-bush, and since I'm able to only throw down 3 wards at a time, I would love for you to throw down that ward so that we're able to see everything that goes on in our lane. Even if you place a ward in the same spot and same time I do, that just means that it would take more than just the support attacking that spot when they sweep it to remove our vision. Even if you miss a bush or throw it in the middle of our lane, that's more vision than we had before.

PhifeMay 31, 20153 votes

mage assassins?

cinderhulk is stil OP.

doiminat0r3600May 31, 20153 votes

Only OP over time.

BorblandMay 31, 20152 votes

i personnaly always upgrade my trinket as anybody (except supp) when I'm above level 9 and have 250 g to spend.

Sadly, most people dont know this, it's pretty sad.

Dr PoroMay 31, 20152 votes

You're right, everyone should upgrade their trinket, but that doesn't mean that support shouldn't buy sightstone anymore. You don't only need wards, you also need to DENY their wards! If your team has no item 3364 you can't take objectives properly. You can't deny their vision to set up an ambush or to get an advantage during the teamfight. Generally the support and jungler will be taking this item, while the support has a sightstone to keep the amount of wards high. Sightstone is better than item 3361 because you can place more than 3 wards per 3 minutes. Your enemies will be likely to sweep your wards aswell. Being able to replace them is mandatory. On top of that, the fight doesn't stay in one place. At one point you're defending on your half of the map and you need to place wards there. A minute later, you're all at their half of the map and now you must make sure this place is warded too! (removing the wards on your side of the map). This can't be done with the trinket as it has only 2 stacks.

IcyPepperMay 31, 20153 votes

Don't worry, pretty sure OP and other supports will keep buying it.

But we need everyone else to ward too. Too many people still have the "it's the support's job to ward" then blame the jungler when they get camped, or everyone yells at someone for not calling MIA five million times because they thought the enemy recalled.

Sightstone is not enough vision for a team, even in combination with trinkets. Upgraded trinkets and sightstone, however, can be.

doiminat0r3600May 31, 20151 votes

Its only extra benefit is early game. Its useless if the enemy team is fed and you cant get far enough out to ward anyway. Its not OP in the late game because its only real benefit is pre-level 9 warding. Other than that, it's terrible.

Austin CovelloMay 31, 20151 votes

Good tip.

+1.

ADCs, try to get item 3363 Everyone else, get item 3364 . Also get item 2044 and item 2043 for as long as you have slots open for them. That's how you carry yourself to diamond.

ElJanitorFrankMay 31, 20151 votes

I personally like the upgraded warding totem better. It's just how I work, I don't remember to check for wards all the time, but if I see 2 charges of my totem, I get mad at myself for wasting precious seconds of non-wardedness (even though they last so long and have such a cooldown that placing them as quickly as possible actually deletes your last ward)

And once late game roles by I needs my item slots, can't buy no bitch-ass wourds instead of a rabacap of echoing hourglasses.

GavranMay 31, 20151 votes

Don't get blue trinket unless you can use it effectively; wards are easier to use effectively for ADCs too.

fractalfantasiesMay 31, 20153 votes

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Don't get blue trinket unless you can use it effectively; wards are easier to use effectively for ADCs too.

I normally buy the standard yellow ward, what situations are the blue orbs beneficial to an adc in?

GavranMay 31, 20151 votes

I can't answer that. ._.

I just wanted to point out that other people like us shouldn't just buy blue ward because other people do. :p

I thinkkk it's primarily to keep fog/bushes from stopping your autos? But that's just me trying to figure out why you would want it on an ADC specifically. It can be nice to check your flanks when you're pushing and such, but I feel like wards work just as well in those situations. Nice for checking objectives of course, but that's true no matter who has it.

Good question though. Hope someone who uses it regularly can answer.

BladeSteelMay 31, 20154 votes

The reason ADC's get the blue trinket is so that they don't face check bushes. with the yellow trinket they get close enough to the bush when warding to get stunned/pulled/assassinated etc. with the blue, that problem isn't as big. usually I get the yellow trinket, then at lv 9 get the upgraded blue.

It Hertz When IPMay 31, 20151 votes

I've used them as a support as a way to ward dragon without having to walk all the way over there. That's about it.

JofeyyMay 31, 20152 votes

Ezreal Caitlyn Jinx for me atleast

JofeyyMay 31, 20151 votes

Im so tired of adcs getting item 3363 and facechecking every bush they run into. I'd rather them just have wards so they dont die so much, if they cant handle using blue trinket...

CudyDarkyzMay 31, 20151 votes

SHHH DON'T TELL PEOPLE MY STAT TO GET TO CHALLNGER!

N30NP4NDAJun 1, 20151 votes

if you buy a item 3361 you will never get to challenger.

doiminat0r3600Jun 1, 20151 votes

If you dont realize that it's the best item in the game, you will never get out of Bronze IV. (dont deny that you arent there, I know you are)

WutsKrakenMay 31, 20151 votes

As a jungler, I agree. WARD you stupid mid/top laner and stop blaming me and the support if you get ganked

Lv16 FlaaffyMay 31, 20151 votes

Just lost a match because my team didnt know what a ward was. I asked them many times "upgrade your trinkets" and it never happened and they always died in enemy jungle and we even got baron 2 times.

I don't know who believes in that "if you're good you'll get out of bronze" shit because I am stuck in it because people love to dive into enemy jungle with no wards. Its almost impossible carrying yourself out of bronze if you play support

CopsMay 31, 20151 votes

i mained support last year n this was a pain where only jungle/support wands

N30NP4NDAMay 31, 20151 votes

Damn, i was gonna upvote it... But then i realized that you are just another dumb cardboard 7 that thinks red trinkets are useless (literally no one but the support/lee sin buys a sight stone) (and everyone else has a red trinket)

doiminat0r3600May 31, 20151 votes

You do realize that I play support very often. Not one game goes by that i dont buy Red Trinket upgrade right? Clealry that was the point of this. Because once my sightstone charges are out, theyre out. No more wards from me.

N30NP4NDAMay 31, 20151 votes

then 1, buy some fucking wards, 2 stop camping out and go back every once in a while, 3 no one buys item 3361 its trash.

doiminat0r3600May 31, 20152 votes

HAHAHAHAHAHA Funny joke.

Yes, because the support should have a full inventory of wards AND maxed out wards on the map at all times? No. only 3 at a time and a sightstone.
I go out, place wards, then go back? No time to support my team and peel for them? Really?
How is the best item in the game trash? It gives you one ward every 60 seconds and holds 2 charges. A sightstone holds 4 (you can only place 3) and when you run out, you have to abandon your team. Sounds like a good idea? Then you must not play support.

Have fun coming up with a counter argument.

N30NP4NDAJun 1, 20151 votes

"You do realize that I play support very often." How am i supposed to know that? You didn't tell anyone. "Not one game goes by that i dont buy Red Trinket upgrade right?" Again, how am i supposed to know that? "Clealry that was the point of this." Again, how the fuck, was i supposed to know that? "Because once my sightstone charges are out, theyre out. No more wards from me." You dont need more wards, You can back to get more. and your adc should also be buying wards. so you only have to back once every, meh 10 minutes.

doiminat0r3600Jun 1, 20151 votes

How am i supposed to know that? You didn't tell anyone. I said in the very first statement, As a support main. Again, how am i supposed to know that? Im a support main. Of course I do. My job is to peel and be killed FOR my team. Again, how the fuck, was i supposed to know that? Refer to above^ You dont need more wards, You can back to get more. and your adc should also be buying wards. so you only have to back once every, meh 10 minutes. I dont know why you think everyone should be buying but a free ward every 60 seconds is worth WAY more than 75 gold a pop. Idk why you think ADC's (Which have the most expensive item set in the game) should be spending that much on wards.

N30NP4NDAJun 2, 20151 votes

You act as if i am going to make assumptions. I'm not, you have to blatantly say everything that you want the opposing party to know, you cant just repeatedly make me infer things, that strikes up misunderstanding and completely ruins the experience that is an argument.

Now to the argument: OK so i admit i didn't reread the original post, you did say that you were a support main. But on the point of you buying a red trinket? "Of course i do" doesn't cut it, you are making the argument that is the best item in the game. So logically you would buy it and not The reason you should buy is simply because is a trinket and you need this item to deny vision effectively. Buying may save you a little money in the long run but it wastes time (because those wards have to be placed at 60 second intervals) it makes you unable to/waste money to deny vision (You don't have a , so to deny vision you have to buy which are 100 gold each and cover less area)

"but a free ward every 60 seconds is worth WAY more than 75 gold a pop." Please explain how the wards from the are worth more than each.

doiminat0r3600Jun 2, 20151 votes

You act as if i am going to make assumptions. I'm not, you have to blatantly say everything that you want the opposing party to know, you cant just repeatedly make me infer things, that strikes up misunderstanding and completely ruins the experience that is an argument.

Im Acting as if you read the original post.

But on the point of you buying a red trinket? "Of course i do" doesn't cut it, you are making the argument that is the best item in the game. So logically you would buy it and not

Supports are supposed to be the one denying vision for the enemy team in certain areas in order to peel, protect, and deny the enemy kills.

The reason you should buy is simply because is a trinket and you need this item to deny vision effectively. Buying may save you a little money in the long run but it wastes time (because those wards have to be placed at 60 second intervals) it makes you unable to/waste money to deny vision (You don't have a , so to deny vision you have to buy which are 100 gold each and cover less area)

(You don't have a , so to deny vision you have to buy which are 100 gold each and cover less area)

I buy Oracles so it covers more area than a ward. Didnt you read anything from above?

Please explain how the wards from the are worth more than each.

You dont have to pay for them.
You get one every 60 seconds without paying for them.
They are in a slot that is used for trinkets, taking up less space for actual items in the mid/late game.
250 g for 2 wards every 120 seconds VS 250 g for 3.25 . Think about that for a second.

Aeolian MelodiesJun 1, 20151 votes

Can only place 3.

Your turn to at least place down your free ward.

N30NP4NDAJun 1, 20151 votes

i buy so many wards its not even funny

doiminat0r3600Jun 1, 20151 votes

Sounds like a problem.