Mid/Jungle collapse on the Bot lane - can't do anything?

Wolfalisk318··1 votes·523 views

Hey folks, I'm a Support main and I'm losing games on the spot to this gank/rotation, we generally can't recover from the swing it gives the enemy team. I'm not sure if I described it well in the title, so this is the gist: Enemy Bot lane pushed us to the Tower. Enemy Jungler and Mid then come through our own Jungle and wait in the tribush for the correct moment. They dive us and trade Tower aggro (not that it really matters since it doesn't do much damage), and several things may happen:

If we stayed they get a Double Kill, a Tower, and a Dragon. We get one of them if we're lucky.

If we backed off they get a Tower and a Dragon.

If we don't make the decision to retreat fast enough they get the aforementioned Double Kill, Tower, and Dragon.

If our Mid or Jungle was privy to it and one came to help but not the other, they get another kill and if we're lucky again, maybe we do too.

Bushes are warded, we know it's coming. Doesn't really matter.

My issue is, every outcome seems to be a net-positive for them, even if we take a Tower in a different lane while this is all happening. I'm currently Unranked and I'm not great at the game, my allies are typically much better than I am, but even they can't seem to really deal with this. The enemy team however seems to always be doing this tactic. I wish I could just play against people near my skill level and not bog my better allies down with my shittiness, but I can't choose my teams and enemies and QM is hellbent on putting me in games I don't belong in. But I digress, that's another issue.

In no uncertain terms, WTF do I do against this? Game is going relatively fine then we lose on the spot from the swing it gives them. Thanks for your time.

6 Comments

rtbf2216514121 votes

Have you ever thought about snaring, stunning, rooting, and etc them when they tower dive?

Wolfalisk3181 votes

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Have you ever thought about snaring, stunning, rooting, and etc them when they tower dive?

Yes, and I do, and often we will manage to get a kill off of it. However, bear in mind we are getting dived by 4 people.

rtbf2216514121 votes

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Yes, and I do, and often we will manage to get a kill off of it. However, bear in mind we are getting dived by 4 people.

Yeah and I've gotten triple kills through it?

Reanimatrix1 votes

Run around turret. It is OP strategy [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Kung Gimli1 votes

Yes it is a positive for them but also remember your job is to negate as much as possible. Also lets say it's very early and you get dived, then that's another situation most likley becuase you have taken bad trades botlane.

But if lets say you are both 100% hp and you get 4manned, just back off and don't die. They will get the tower and dragon right so why give them more. Your're a lategame role anways, farm up and then carry.

Grimspeake1 votes

give up the tower and tell ur mid jungle to go dive top. all you can do is try to not die and hope your team responds with something

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