Riot, Akali mains are speaking, You said you would cater to us, Then listen to us.

Jesus Is My King··109 votes·7,176 views

I have been playing Akali for the last 9 months and me and every other Akali main has said that we don't like these changes. The community is clearly dissatisfied with these changes and we haven't hear anything pertaining to fixing them yet. This is a problem because we are so close to the pre season and we don't know what you're doing to our favorite champion. From what i've read, you wanted the akali changes to be tailored towards mains, and almost all the mains are speaking against the changes. Please listen to the community.

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ZED G0D52 votes

The community is tired of akali going tank and going 17-0

Jesus Is My King9 votes

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The community is tired of akali going tank and going 17-0

Only terrible Akali players would build tank. That is all we say about that.

R187 votes

[{quoted}](name=The 1st Angel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=18rm9IaM,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-11-02T18:43:58.607+0000)

Only terrible Akali players would build tank. That is all we say about that.

Hey...... In have a pretty good winrate playing her tank. You can't call people terrible for playing a champ a certain way.

Jesus Is My King1 votes

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Hey...... In have a pretty good winrate playing her tank. You can't call people terrible for playing a champ a certain way.

What elo are you

R181 votes

[{quoted}](name=The 1st Angel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=18rm9IaM,comment-id=0000000000010001,timestamp=2016-11-02T22:52:36.001+0000)

What elo are you

Gold? Please note that you can't say shit about my rank seeing that you have twice as many games as me.

Jesus Is My King1 votes

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Gold? Please note that you can't say shit about my rank seeing that you have twice as many games as me.

Actually I can, first season, started at B5 and made it to G1. Have to say pretty good first season.

Joquan2 votes

Fact is, you're still both gold. You're not that much better than him and gold isn't the end all for skill and knowledge.

RainbowIcee2 votes

Not true at all. Stop being a bully just because people have upvoted you. There are times tank akali is better than full dps monkey. And i think its fair for a champion to have a second viable build option if the first one isnt gonna work that well. ( example heavy mr team with CC. ) so i dont feel shutting down 1 of her build paths is fair.

Limmie57 votes

So are Akali mains. But do you realize this rework is actually making Tankali the only viable build now?

EmollientNut018 votes

This game's never going to get any better if Riot continues counting actual main player opinions as "outspoken minorities."

Pierce The Veal5 votes

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This game's never going to get any better if Riot continues counting actual main player opinions as "outspoken minorities."

Yeah. That's always what they've done unfortunately.

Look at literally all of the reworks and gameplay updates.

EmollientNut011 votes

It really seems now it's at the point where the plot is completely lost. Their original post about the jungle plants literally got thousands of downvotes. People had to complain for 10 MONTHS before they realized Dynamic Queue sucks, and still are only half-removing it for season 7.

What surgeon tools does it actually take to perform a head-from-ass removal?

JMoormann5 votes

The post about Tyler1's ban also got thousands of downvotes.

According to all known stats, the game is doing better than ever, so I understand why they would do certain things even if some of the players don't like it.

VexingRaven10 votes

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So are Akali mains. But do you realize this rework is actually making Tankali the only viable build now?

Hi from a Shaco main, I think we're both going to be in the same boat... I hope for both our sakes Riot reconsiders some of the Assassin changes and the goals of the changes.

TheNeemDream10 votes

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The community is tired of akali going tank and going 17-0

These changes will make Akali much more likely to build tank considering her damage and ratios have been severly nerfed

LankPants24 votes

I'm super disappointed with the way PR has been handled with this rework. Ricklessabandon made a couple of posts on the PBE boards in the first 5 minutes after it went live onto the PBE, the second he realised that the community sentiment for the rework was overwhelmingly negative he went radio silent and refused to talk to the community at all.

He has not addressed any of the concerns that Akali players have at all, occasionally he tweets out some BS about how great his rework will be, but he'll never respond to a negative tweet at him.

The guy handles criticism like a 5 year old. He shuts himself away and denies it exists. That is not good enough for someone working on reworks. A lot of the criticism he received was constructive, by ignoring it he's dooming his rework to failure.

Monotachi13 votes

Communication is a two-way street.

As a designer myself, you should always expect criticism on your work and even welcome it, because it means you can see how to improve. There's nothing worse of a designer that is blind in their own work and refuse to see other people's perspectives...

HazyCloud712 votes

I don't play Akali nor do I even like her but I know what it feels like for a champion you enjoy playing to receive changes that don't make any sense. It really sucks when people that don't even play your champion change them for the worse, and even more so when they ignore feedback.

Hinagiku338 votes

I feel your pain too. But it's kind of sad that this is such a trend for Riot in the first place.

MkShenGreatAgain11 votes

Riot's been responsible for far more bad reworks than good ones, but I think Shaco, Shen and Akali are going to be the pinnacle of every bad decision you can make with your champions.

Nuparu5 votes

Rengar?

Free stats and a shit ton of clunkiness in his kit?

A huge loss of reliability?

Strange conditionals?

All attached to numbers that are MUCH higher than pre-rework?

ItsOrval8 votes

Why would they harm my poor Shen :(

He was my first main when I started in December of 2015, was so good with him. Then they changed him and I did not like him.

Doseqis11 votes

Not gonna lie just look at their history within the community, hell just look like a few weeks back ago.

Riot PROMISED they would pull back plants if they didn't work and after people complained and said showed how bad plants were balance wise and how they ruined alot of the strategic play riot just ignored it and went on with their plant idea.

Not much we can do to influence them once they get their mind on something and it shows time and time again how stubborn they are with their changes instead of just letting it go.

Trekkorm11 votes

League of Legends is a game about adaptation. If you are unable to, or in this case even unwilling to adapt to the future, then all i can say is good riddance.

These changes are coming to better match Akali's character, as well as provide more opportunities for counterplay for everybody ELSE than Akali. If you are unable to play Akali because of one little nerf, then perhaps you were simply relying on an overpowered champion design rather than personal skill.

Leetri4 votes

Adapt or be removed! Viktor

Irelia Bot9 votes

I guess it is time to start getting my diana burst combo down more consistently.

Riot hasn't deleted that counter to marksmen yet.

Akali is SO HOT6 votes

Diana is actually pretty damn fun to play. Ironically she's pretty good against a lot of Akali's counters.

Wyrmblade8 votes

As a Mordekaiser player you have my sympathies.

Nothing is more poisonous to video games like this than devs with their heads up their asses.

MonkeyMadness8 votes

This guy in the video sounds like a 5 year old that had his toy taken away because he used it to hit another kid in the head. He's talking about all of his awesome unstoppable combos and how it sucks that Riot is removing akali's ability to secure completely guaranteed kills is so bad for the game.

Also let me point out that if you are quitting the game because Riot changed your favorite champ, the game is better off without you.

PapaGreg217 votes

I don't play akali much anymore because she's too feast or famine and nowhere in between. For the people that think tank akali is freelo, I doubt that her poor play and win percentage accurately reflects that.

I also hate the akali changes, and I was originally looking forward to her being in a healthy spot. All of her damage now comes from autoattacks, which basically makes her a worse irelia with a shroud. Every single ability has been nerfed outside of shroud not having a pink ward reveal her. For some reason she now heals on her first autoattack, which is bizarre because she should be pretty high health on her first auto and would benefit much more from her second auto healing. Plus the other assassins are looking like they will be awesome so she will be not only worse in general, but worse for her position because other similar champs will be better.

Niyumi7 votes

Awww, boo. The poor Akali mains are losing their freelo. T_T So sad.

Maybe now you'll have to actually be good in order to win, instead of just hit level 6 and just automatically win. Poor you. So put out.

Nuparu10 votes

Who the fuck in any elo past Bronze V thinks Akali post-six is freelo?

Akali is SO HOT6 votes

Yasuo players usually get salty af when I Shadow Dance them right out of their weeb fantasy so there's that :^)

HazyCloud76 votes

I mean, she sucks to play against but that doesn't mean she should be gutted. Champions getting their identity destroyed from them is something even people who don't play those champions should stand up for, because one day it might be a champion you play getting their identity destroyed.

I think there is definitely a scenario where reworked akail feels fair to play against but mains can still enjoy playing her. Judging by the feedback this rework isn't it.

paperbIade6 votes

she is very hard to lane against

Limmie24 votes

Is this a joke? She has probably THE worst lanning phase in the game.

Terchio5 votes

Everything said in the video feels either overblown or has been changed prior to this post.

Passive: Changed to 2-hit burst damage/heal combo instead of some weird DPS/heal thing that allowed Akali to chain kills easy. Also has been heavily modified since video (now AD/AP ratios on both attacks, and generally more generous).

W: Duration set back to 8 seconds at all levels. Also, not following what is wrong with this new teleport mechanic. Would like to see in action. Will admit, sounds pointless, but it is a free flash with a slow to cover your ground.

E: It's a damage buff, pretty much through and through. Not as bursty with higher cooldowns at high levels, but top laners were abusing this (See her Champion.gg ). On the other side of things, it wastes less energy for the power, so that's something.

R: Nerfed badly. That said, the ability is a double flash range on top of an enemy already, and at an absurdly low cooldown for the combo damage alone.

I will say, I do have reservations about this build, but you're missing the picture entirely. She has a mini Flash pre-6 now, with the old movement jolt on top of it, and a speedy escape route, too. This can be used to actually harass in the mid lane, instead of basically sitting under tower until level 6. And even if you are stuck under there, Crescent Slash has only been buffed for waveclear purposes.

In top, she can't spam Crescent Slash to burst enemies down along with the whole wave, but instead she has a real harass now. Toss a Q, run up and auto double proc > Q > auto double proc, and toss in a bulkier Crescent Slash on top, you won't be losing many trades up there, either, and all within 2 autos and several fast casting spells. And I don't even think her trades were particularly bad up there, either, they just required basically fighting in your shroud, and out-DPSing your enemies with E and passive, on an assassin champ... I'm kinda glad she lost her DPS for some burst, actually. She will still be quite imposing, but I'm hopeful that she won't assassinate so fast, and that an enemy can turn around and knock her back down heavily, and probably waste her escape tool in the process.

All in all, I see her getting a lot more potential early game, and that scares me that she will be overpowered early on, and then will eventaually fall off when her 2 second R cooldown actually means something lategame. I don't want them to strive for that pattern, but I think it actually plays toward the Akali player playstyle of midgame menace, with some bonus early game pressure added in.

Attticus Finch4 votes

People that post their League opinions on the internet make up barely a fraction of a % of the total League player base.

Your opinion and the opinions of everyone who agrees with you are drops in an ocean.

Rıots Bad Client7 votes

I don't care what happens to akali. but the Majority are not akali mains, they don't know exactly what they want- However Akali mains do and its why he is saying what's on his mind.

Again, I don't care what happens. Her q-w-e could be about throwing paper airplanes that heal the enemies.

ModAcademy Kayn3 votes

I'd personally just wait and see. The community once said that Skarner Rework was weak. We all know what happened next.

Akali is SO HOT22 votes

It's not a matter of her being strong or weak. It's really a matter of her still being Akali after these changes and from my PBE testing she doesn't really feel like Akali at all. I've played Akali during the times when she was the worst assassin in the game because I like playing her. I won't really care if she's overpowered or weak af after these changes because she won't be as fun to play.

sir d wreck5 votes

Akali is getting Karmaed :(

Akali is SO HOT9 votes

She already got Karmad when they nerfed her sideboobs :^)

Tik1152 votes

Sona mains send our condolences

but if your champion isn't super flashy they'll ignore your critique and push it out while the second a flashy champ whines they scrap it immediately

Supreme Senpai694 votes

Am I the only Sona player who liked the update?

DaSarcasticGuy1 votes

Riot over buffed skarner in response.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Main point being the Community said something, that turned out to be wrong, regardless of the response.

DaSarcasticGuy6 votes

Are we sure the community was wrong? If the response was an over buff, than its possible the community was right and the response was the problem. Then again it's possible skarner was actually in a good spot, but the community misjudged and riot listened. My point was we aren't sure where exactly the issue was with skarner.

vaderpl2 votes

Yeah it's sad when your main who can instakill anyone for 30 minutes after level 6 is nerfed am I right?

Irelia Bot11 votes

you mean marksmen who auto 3 to 5 times and kill anything that does not have 4000 health and 300+ armor?

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