Grasp on PBE concerns

War The Horseman·12/9/2017, 10:09:27 AM·1 votes·770 views

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1 AD = 35 GOLD

1 AP = 22.75 GOLD

Grasp gives 1 AD for every 100 Max HP and 1.25 AP for every 100 Max HP.

So AD champs get 35 gold per 100 HP from this mastery but AP champs get only 28.4 GOLD.

A grasp proc on a 3000 HP AD champ is 1050 GOLD in stats but an AP champ gets only 853 GOLD.

Why does an AD take 200 gold more out of the rune than an AP?

I am sick of this BS Riot. What happened to fair exchange rates?

Nerf the AD ratio or buff the AP but I don't want to get nearly 20% less gold in stats with grasp than an AD champ.

8 Comments

Critmaster Garen12/9/2017, 10:53:53 AM3 votes

[{quoted}](name=War The Horseman,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=17nMB1XM,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-12-09T10:09:27.905+0000)

1 AD = 35 GOLD

1 AP = 22.75 GOLD

Grasp gives 1 AD for every 100 Max HP and 1.25 AP for every 100 Max HP.

So AD champs get 35 gold per 100 HP from this mastery but AP champs get only 28.4 GOLD.

A grasp proc on a 3000 HP AD champ is 1050 GOLD in stats but an AP champ gets only 853 GOLD.

Why does an AD take 200 gold more out of the rune than an AP?

I am sick of this BS Riot. What happened to fair exchange rates?

Nerf the AD ratio or buff the AP but I don't want to get nearly 20% less gold in stats with grasp than an AD champ.

because most tanks scale with ap and they actually have pretty high scalings at times.

no one expects the rune on a mage. the main targets for grasp are fighters and tanks. and tanks have the potential to live longer and build more stacks over the course of a fight.

riot doesnt want Maokai with 500 ap on a full tank build happening.

AirKingNeo12/9/2017, 2:14:58 PM2 votes

Apply context. Tanks have high AP scalings, so they don't want tanks to break it,

Simple as that.

PopcornBunni12/9/2017, 10:13:49 AM1 votes

Because AP has item 3089 ?

The real problem is how much this fucks over tanks. Poppy has one of the lowest health values in the entire game and the stacking health added a mechanically interesting way of solving that issue.

Sasogwa12/9/2017, 10:22:09 AM1 votes

It used to be 1.6 I believe and they nerfed it to 1.25, so I guess the playtesting went too well for AP users.

darkevilshadow1712/9/2017, 4:36:32 PM1 votes

Chogath item 3193 No thanks.