As a pyke main, please nerf him

Artorias1·8/10/2019, 3:21:55 PM·58 votes·14,821 views

As someone with over 150k on pyke, I hate seeing him banned every game. When I do get to play him, it just feels like an unfair stomp, with me getting full build often by 25 minutes. Its such a shame because I love this champion so much and I just feel like hes in such an unbalanced mess right now, with him having the highest ban rate in the game, and his kit having too much punishment on just one mistake by the enemy. But if Pyke makes a mistake? Oh he can just e on out, along with a stealth if he needs it. So please, as someone who plays him, I also ask for you to nerf him.

34 Comments

ihateyouallmuted8/10/2019, 6:17:59 PM22 votes

When you give champions the ability to choose their fights unequivocally, the result will always be permanent lack of balance.

I often say these same things about Tracer & Genji from overwatch, even though it's much less of a problem in that game - these characters can still die to the stray headshot or hook, but most fights, they either win overtly through their damage, or run until they **can **win. That is the frustration: I physically can't kill this guy, but he can kill me, and I have no choice in the matter either way we try to do it. I can't chase, I can't escape, yet he is allowed to do both.

What's a positive version of this?

Galio. Galio's dash is explicitly made so that it can't be used to escape from people who are already engaging on you. Once he's stuck, he's in it.

Zac - despite the massive range, it requires time and an obvious animation.

What's a bad example of this?

Yasuo - infinite dashes that require no cast time or resource.

Akali - Two dashes that are actually both themselves two dashes each.

Pyke - an insanely fast dash on a character who already has a stealth and a hook, two things I thought they would never put on the same champion joined into an unholy trinity of bullshit.

General Esdeath 8/10/2019, 7:13:34 PM12 votes

"Just learn to play against him"

-Riot

Ahri Baka8/10/2019, 7:09:10 PM7 votes

Since release he was never balanced It's not about the latest buff he got

R0XTAR8/10/2019, 5:03:05 PM4 votes

I feel that. I mained Lucian for a long time. I saw him get gutted for mid play, gutted for the occasional top play (aka the Lucian, Quinn, Vayne, even Corki top)... as soon as someone gets strong they are unanimously banned almost every game and when they aren't, it was a landside victory. Rito needs to actually assess the situation before giving buffs or nerfs.

I don't feel that enough players are on the PBE to actually permit changes going to Live servers. Nobody gives a shit on it and changes like these shouldn't have gotten off the ground let alone going to the actual mass player base.

Gold Grenade8/12/2019, 12:20:37 AM2 votes

What is really needed is for them to stick to a formula that is SET IN STONE that could be called the "Power Budget."

If every champion actually stuck to the original formula of one auto-attack passive, passive regen at loss of mobility, one-two ability passives at loss of CC, one-two CC passives at loss of damage, and that certain mechanics couldn't be combined in triplets it would fix this game's balance: For example if you have Stealth and Hook you can't have Dash. Or if you have Dash and Stealth you can't have Hook. Dash and Hook? NO STEALTH.

Also, SCREW ANIMATION CANCELS. Buffers are fine, but animation cancels can go to oblivion.

I wish I could sit down with riot and set out the formula against all the champions in the roster. We could fix this shit in a month and the champions could be nerfed and buffed to achieve an actual balance.

CyanSolution2478/11/2019, 6:25:28 PM1 votes

The worst part is the longer they wait to nerf, the more people will hate the champ and continue to ban after a nerf (if it ever happens).

Xhaiden8/11/2019, 6:57:15 PM1 votes

They barley released a new skin for Pyke - so the chances of Pyke getting balanced so soon - seem kinda low. Maybe a small nerf in the upcoming patches - followed by something more serious couple of months from now. Or in 2020... 🤷🏻‍♂️

5kcheesesticks8/11/2019, 8:18:05 PM1 votes

no dont listen to this monkey.

Wife In Lantern8/11/2019, 11:21:52 PM1 votes

lmao. 150k and you call yourself a main. are you delusional? i'm 700k mastery on a champion and i don't even consider myself a "main" Hit more than 1mil on a champion and then we can talk. until then, get lost