How you SHOULD build blitzcrank support

Jetjoe·Jun 10, 2016·2 votes·2,742 views

Early game I find just not effective enough. If your ADC is running to recall youre missing out on valuable gold. Instead... .

This build gives you close to 300 AP, 3500 health late game, 150 bonus armor, a little magic resistance and slow resistance plus speed. Feel free to switch the liandry's torment to w.e u want.

My rational behind this is, the gives you a decent amount of early game mana and HEALTH combined. blitz early game with ADC is strong anyway. The AP ensures you are ahead in damage as a team to beat the enemy bot laner. Combined the entire rod of ages is pretty good.

Rylais gives a good amount of AP and health too, for earlyish- early mid game. IT slows down the person you just grabbed which is pretty good too.

For this reason as a support, I DO NOT take exhaust. I take heal.

You MAY take your ADC's kill, but let me be honest with you, its a whole lot better to take their kill, kill one of the two enemies in lane. And have them be alive to keep farming and keep getting their gold vs the other ADC/support. You can save your ultimate in fights between the two enemies and only use it if you feel they have a stronger chance of killing your ADC before you guys can kill them.

79 Comments

TNHA BaritoneJun 10, 20166 votes

There are many problems with your build:

1.) Those items are way too expensive for a support

2.) Those items provide nothing for your team, you do not even a suggest a item 3190 or item 3512

3.) There is no item 2049

4.) If you take summoner 7 rather than summoner 3 or summoner 14 then you lose a large portion of your pressure in lane and ability to peel for your carry. Also, two heals (especially at the same time) are ineffective as there is a portion in which the healing is reduced if both are casted within said time range.

Here is a build that fixes all of the item problems listed above:

item 2303 item 3117 item 3800 item 3001 item 3190 item 3025

######DISCLAIMER: I do not play ~~that cancerous champion~~ Blitzcrank but from what I see and think as a support, I am sure that what I listed is in fact, correct.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

This is incorrect. With a blitzcrank (like myself or better), you will land grabs roughly every minute. Generally by 10 minutes as blitzcrank I expect my ADC and myself combined to get nearly 1 kill per minute or more. On a lower end estimate atleast 5 kills.

If you are obtaining lots of kills, assists, and I use the gold gen item item 3302 to gain a little cs. You should be able to build. The build you have suggested is a useless build, and every time I see an enemy champion try to build that, what do I do? I kill him. And I kill him again. And again. And again. And again, and he probably afks in frustration. Why? Because late game when all that armor goes to crap because the ADC has one of the last whisper items. you can do nothing.

No, I wont accept that. This is not how you win games.

You win games by being strong early game, completely destroying your laning opponent, and their morale. You destroy their gold income. You destroy them. They mean nothing to their team anymore. That makes the game a 3 v 5. Your adc and you are both ahead in gold. You also do a good amount of damage, you are slightly tanky. You roam a little but you ensure you keep the pressure in your lane going.

Well what happens at the second outer turret when the enemy jungler comes to gank you, you say? You kill him too. Why? because you and your ADC are already so fed you should be able to 2 v 3 with decent skills, and you do damage.

Now, what if I took your build? Oh I would have a little armor but I would be damage useless in that sense, and we would die. See? Useless...

Typically as blitzcrank I see myself ending games in 20 minutes because we cleared all their turrets that fast or they surrendered.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

Let me also add, you dont pop the same heals at the same time. Simple as that. You save one of the heals. Blitz has so much CC, three/4 of his abilities are CC.

Mig89Jun 10, 20161 votes

Morgana would rek that build

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

Morgana would sit and die, I would bait her spell shield with my W and just walk back and laugh. I would be grabbing her ADC 24/7 every time they try to CS. and when morgana ults I would be silencing her with my ult. Morgana doesnt stand a chance. At any elo. Youre silver kid, stop arguing.

AntininjapenguinJun 11, 20161 votes

you also got into gold by queueing with gold 1 during your placements

TNHA BaritoneJun 10, 20162 votes

You win games by being strong early game

This is not entirely true. Some teams deliberately pick late game scaling champions such as

Vayne Tristana Ryze Vladimir Twitch Veigar Nasus KogMaw Kassadin Kayle

because they know that if they enemy team is not able to end quick enough then they will be able to win the game indefinitely.

Well what happens at the second outer turret when the enemy jungler comes to gank you, you say? You kill him too. Why? because you and your ADC are already so fed you should be able to 2 v 3 with decent skills, and you do damage.

And what happens when someone else feeds? What happens when you lose lane? What happens when you are unable to peel for your ADC because you failed to kill someone with your damage and now you've died? I also will add, if you're at your at their second outer turret then the jungler isn't just coming. The top laner and or mid laner will come too.

Now, what if I took your build? Oh I would have a little armor but I would be damage useless in that sense, and we would die. See? Useless...

At this point I see your close-mindedness on the topic and all I can say to you is: To each, their own. Though the title, Tank does indeed exist for a reason.

######I just hope that one day you'll see the flaws in your build. If you're winning with it, ride the streak while it lasts.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

Again, youre still incorrect. These late game champs you pick, should not be getting fed. Its precisely why I end games early and why I chose the build I do. Because when I land a grab, even early game on an enemy. I want to make sure he dies.

I do not believe in late game anymore, because late game is a matter of skill and build, no longer depends on gold and kills as much.

I do not play a ranked game if I feel my team isnt strong enough to win the game and end early. I am a strong believe in counter picks and ending as early as possible.

What happens when someone else feeds? What happens when I fail to peel for my adc? Well early-mid game I am just as tanky as the build you suggested earlier with about 900 bonus health. MY ADC is FED. There is no question about that. I make the game easy enough for my ADC to get fed so that my bronze girlfriend can defeat their gold+ adc. My adc will be able to kill that person because I am sitting there, using my E to keep knocking this person up (I max E), I have an extra heal for my adc, I have a silencing ULT which BLOCKS all of the enemies spells for a second. for someone who gets grabbed by blitzcrank with damage and a fed adc, he can sit back and watch himself die.

You can say I am close minded, but after loads of experience, I will tell you a tank is not a tank infront of people with armor penetration. The tank will be melted by a mage, or a person with penetration.

I have tested this build out multiple times and am not coming out of the blue to tell you this. And this build works. Ive lost 1/35 games with this build, and it was not mine, or my ADCS fault.

TNHA BaritoneJun 10, 20161 votes

I do not believe in late game anymore, because late game is a matter of skill and build, no longer depends on gold and kills as much.

I think I found your weakness. Skill. I'm not even trying to be mean. You rely on cheesy tactics (which is fine) to win the game rather than pure decision-making and skill choices. But what I'm trying to say is those tactics don't always work and when skill does indeed come into play, it will be difficult for you to do what you need to do.

I am a strong believe in counter picks and ending as early as possible.

That's fine but I've beaten so many people who counter me before. Likewise, I've lost to so many people who I counter. It's all about your enemies knowledge, not counters.

I will tell you a tank is not a tank infront of people with armor penetration. The tank will be melted by a mage, or a person with penetration.

If you only have resistances people with penetration will indeed melt you. But if you combine your resistances with enough health it will take them a LONG time to shred you.

I have tested this build out multiple times and am not coming out of the blue to tell you this. And this build works. Ive lost 1/35 games with this build, and it was not mine, or my ADCS fault.

Yeah and I have over 1k games on Karma and I still take critique and feedback with my builds. No build is the same every game.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

The funny thing is you talk about skill when I will guaranteed own you. In response to your previous post I tried this in a diamond game and the enemy laners were crying because they lost lane so hard.

This game does not require "skill" which is a made up term I Would like to explain to you is a way for losers to glorify themselves. These are the same losers who fail school, sit around playing league all day thinking they are amazing. NO. Everyone has access to the same runes and masteries, and champions, It is not SKILL that carries you. The only SKILL that may be involved in this game is last hitting minions. the rest is KNOWLEDGE, of how to win the game.

I am not talking about mediocre counters here. I am talking about HARD Counters. People who delete others off the map. you have to think out of the box, but the best way I could put it is pantheon vs fiora, the guy kills her under her own turret. That is a hard counter.

MY blitz crank build IS tanky. He has ALOT of health to go through, and ALOT of armor to go through. IF The game ends up late game. And the squishies who have armor penetration, and the mages with mag penetration, will DIE to you, because your burst is that high, and youre that tanky

You have 1 k games on karma, and youre only plat shows me YOU lack skill and knowledge. I started league on christmas, and in 5 months (didnt play one month) Ive gone from level 1 to gold IV, (I have another account that is gold I). That is called intelligence, which is how you win this game, not your so called skill.

AnomanderJun 10, 20161 votes

In response to your previous post I tried this in a diamond game and the enemy laners were crying because they lost lane so hard.

Your in gold...... you didn't try it in a diamond game.

You have played blitz twice in the last 2 weeks. Both were normals.......

Both times you were matched against silver 5 adc's. The rest of the enemy team are BRONZE AS a silver I know that silvers can't dodge a grab............let alone bronze. You are cheesing Low elo. This is simple fact.

You are queing up with a BRONZE 3 just so that you can cheese........

ElysMustacheJun 10, 20162 votes

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In response to your previous post I tried this in a diamond game

You are posting form an account that is Gold IV and have 10 ranked games played, none of them with Blitzcrank.

TNHA BaritoneJun 10, 20161 votes

The funny thing is you talk about skill when I will guaranteed own you.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-baji-4dQT-E/UBzmhrKl7GI/AAAAAAAAB_s/6JFuJXlNbto/s320/batman-laughing.gif

These are the same losers who fail school, sit around playing league all day thinking they are amazing

So irrelevant.

You have 1 k games on karma, and youre only plat

Because CLEARLY normal games go towards your LP and MMR right? All that knowledge and you still fail to combine and connect your thoughts.

YOU lack skill and knowledge.

Didn't you just say, "It is not SKILL that carries you".

That is called intelligence, which is how you win this game, not your so called skill.

https://media.giphy.com/media/MDsR9Dw4FekPS/giphy.gif

I started league on christmas, and in 5 months Ive gone from level 1 to gold IV, (I have another account that is gold I).

"These are the same losers who fail school, sit around playing league all day thinking they are amazing"

At this point I can use your own quotes to prove you wrong

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

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TNHA BaritoneJun 10, 20161 votes

#Can I get an Amen?

PhDs NutsJun 10, 20161 votes

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And btw youre not even using my own quotes to prove me wrong. I dont play league all day long, I won 10 promos because IW as good and made it through.

youre pretty much a dumbass on here like the rest, and you will stay one for the rest of your life.

You claim to have played the game for 6 months with 2 accounts at level 30 and both in gold.

That's playing pretty often.

But you're a troll anyway, so idc.

RatbertJun 10, 20167 votes

If you land a grab a minute, your lane partners are bad.

AnomanderJun 10, 20164 votes

OR you could build item 2301 item 3110 item 3190 item 3117 item 3800 item 3026

And actually be a support.

This will give you a engage. Tank. Two team auras HUGE health and mana(passive shield) and 40% cdr.... all on a supports budget.

This also give massive amounts of pick potential with the righteous glory mobi combo. While having a similar damage output because of the CDR.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

If you are obtaining lots of kills, assists, and I use the gold gen item to gain a little cs. You should be able to build. The build you have suggested is a useless build, and every time I see an enemy champion try to build that, what do I do? I kill him. And I kill him again. And again. And again. And again, and he probably afks in frustration. Why? Because late game when all that armor goes to crap because the ADC has one of the last whisper items. you can do nothing.

No, I wont accept that. This is not how you win games.

Now, what if I took your build? Oh I would have a little armor but I would be damage useless in that sense, and we would die. See? Useless...

Typically as blitzcrank I see myself ending games in 20 minutes because we cleared all their turrets that fast or they surrendered.

Mig89Jun 10, 20161 votes

The people you are playing against must suck if you're landing that frequent of grabs. I would trek you if you build that way and I play support. I do play zyrs though and it's all too easy to counter blitz

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

OR OR OR OR. I am good at landing grabs. I am standing in spots they arent planning on it. I am planning on grabbing them through a minion that is about to die. I start with item 3302 , I can clear a minion with half health with 1 auto and grab freely.

Mig89Jun 10, 20161 votes

Lol what rank are you? We all know how blitz plays and your strategy is nothing New. Blitz players sometimes used to build blasting smite for that reason alone.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

Gold IV here Gold I on my other account, joined league on christmas as level 1.

Mig89Jun 10, 20161 votes

I'm also a support main who has probably played against more blitz than you've played as him. I play exclusively support and was silver 1 and good 4pre season. Almost everyone here disagree with you but you can believe what you want

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

There is something called intelligence in this game, something many league of legenders dont have. Theres a bunch of college drop out, unemployed plats and diamonds out there who are idiots.

I find even with newer champions that I am trying out to learn, I still win lane because I know what I am doing and how to beat my opponent . League of legends is about 2% intelligence, and 98 % of brain dead people who have wasted their careers saying "Feelbadman" and "kappa" like the stoners they are.

I took irelia in ranked the other day, I had only tried her in a bot game once, and I anhilated the enemy who apparently was an irelia main but I picked her before she had the chance to get her.

Mig89Jun 10, 20162 votes

Can't argue with someone with a superiority complex

AnomanderJun 10, 20162 votes

He is Gold 4 however he is only playing blitz against Silver 5 and below by queuing with a bronze 3..............

Mig89Jun 10, 20162 votes

Makes sense. I couldn't check cause I'm I my phone at work lol

BestTristMyHausJun 10, 20161 votes

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OR OR OR OR. I am good at landing grabs.

If you can CONSISTENTLY (especially outside of Bronze/Silver elo where you're pseudo smurfing with your GF) land grabs, then YES you're good at landing grabs. That doesn't make this a good build, it makes it work FOR YOU with your grabs.

That said, I notice two things:

You don't normally PLAY support (at least not on this account, feel free to note your Gold I main(?))
Your 4-man premade you usually roll with does NOT run blitz or apparently use your "recommended" build. If its so freelo, why don't you just play support all the time and steamroll all the way up with your unstoppable blitz? You got a guy that seems capable of running a decent ADC, what's the deal?

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

I can consistently grab outside of bronze/silver elo. I was doing it in diamond by using a friends diamond account to duo with him.

IT is a very good build.

This account has not had support blitz played because he is the most banned champion in ranked. He was banned in 8/10 of my games and I felt confident enough in other lanes to also snowball.

It is not just a blitscrank build but its a build for MOST MAGES. item 3027 item 3116 item 3151 item 3089 item 3135 item 3020 .

I use this build consistently with almost all mages. I have been using it on heimer dinger and find it SUPER effective. IF I need to add any more items on heim I would just throw away the boots and get item 3157 or item 3165 or something else. The tankyness on heim, while retaining the same amount of AP that he normally would have as a squishy, with possibly cdr, makes him a god. The other day as a mid laner I had bot lane go 0/8 combined, our jungler 0/3, top lane did well, and we had the enemy team surrender in 20 minutes. I think I had 17 kills and 3 deaths at 20, top lane had around 11/4, but she was also feeding early game (1/3).

The enemy vayne was slightly fed but I was even more fed, and farmed, and stronger with my burst, that I killed her (also more experience.) Their team comp was slightly stupid, I think it was quinn, ezreal, vayne, twisted fate, and I cant remember their support. But still.

BestTristMyHausJun 10, 20161 votes

So what's the other account? The Gold I or the Diamond you borrowed? I see that you're better than the bronze/silvers you're playing with your GF, no doubt. But I wanna see the facerolling on Plat+. I'm garbage tier, I admit it, but if you grab+kill me more than twice before 15 mins (let alone 10) then I expect to be called out for being crap and/or screwing my team. That simply should NOT happen, by the second kill that lane should be turtled all to hell.

You're also hyper aggressive, that's your style, fine. But that does NOT always work. You can beat Silver/Gold tier people? OK, I see you're also capable of leading your team in DEATHS in a game against BOTS (and not as a support). I'm ready to eat crow if you show me the wins, but right now, I'm seeing SKILL that's better than mine, but nothing to justify thinking this is a great build (for support).

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

btw this is prob why ur silver IV essentially bronze.

TNHA BaritoneJun 10, 20162 votes

And Guess what gold essentially is?

You aren't **good **until you hit the ends of Diamond. <3

RogueWillJun 10, 20163 votes

Too expensive, Thats the issue

ArakadiaJun 10, 20162 votes

How do you expect to get this gold? Without a support item you will fall behind heavilly on blitzcrank.

Sighstone. You have no sighstone which is very important. Vision is super underated in low elo and vision = less deaths, more kills, more objectives, and more control of the game. With Vision you can see the jungler is clearing blue, so you can take his red. With Vision you can see blitzcrank, sivir, and elise around the corner before they hook you. With Vision you can see them getting Baron. With Vision you can push top lane safely because you know their all near botlane.

If you want to slow the enemy, and be tankier with some mana, you should get IBG not Rylais.

Dont take the kills as a support. You cannot utalize the gold as efficiently. They can use the gold MUCH more.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

No youre incorrect. Its probably why youre bronze. Because you listen to the advice of higher elo players who DONT WANT you to get out of bronze.

I excluded this but I do get item 3302 and retain it all the way till I have room for a 6th item, if I need a 6th item. It does provide my gold. I do not use sight stone, because, all it does is effectively provide health and early game 3 vision wards instead of 2. No sorry I Wont do this. I get a pink ward, the entire team should be buying pink wards as it only costs 75 G, and placing them somewhere. Between my adc and I, we have 4 wards.

Now, if the jungler does come in, what do we do? well I am not only a tanky support, but I also do good damage because of the AP, so we kill their jungler. Kill their adc, and kill their sup who is probably a walking squishy rock because of all the useless support items they got. Now trust me on this because even in normal blind pick I own the enemy blitz in a mirror match because he gets those crappy items.

With my build you should be expecting a surrender at 20, or ending the game before 30, so you dont really need to worry as much about barron and your pink wards should be good.

As far as vision on their jungler clearing blue, if your jungler is any good he should be in the enemy's jungle. Im not a jungle main anymore because I find it better for my jungler to be able to have one lane doing decent and not feeding like a fucking cow. But when I used to jungle and carry I would ALWAYS have my enemies blue bush "pinked" so my team could see if he was there. I would be smiting his wolves, and warding between his red and birds.

Its your juglers job to do that.

You do not understand how kills work as a support. As blitz you dont NEED to take the kills. But, its a whole lot better to secure a kill if your adc cant, than have your adc die in a fight. This way during that 10-20 second death time, your ADC can get ahead on farm compared to the enemy.

ArakadiaJun 11, 20161 votes

No youre incorrect. Its probably why youre bronze. Because you listen to the advice of higher elo players who DONT WANT you to get out of bronze.

They dont want me to climb? Maybe some of them but not really. I mean their builds make sense, feel logical, AND the lcs use them. Why would lcs use it if it sucks? Im broze yes, but during preseason I was silver III. You dont need to bring my rank into this argument to make you right, it wont work anyways.

I excluded this but I do get and retain it all the way till I have room for a 6th item, if I need a 6th item. It does provide my gold. I do not use sight stone, because, all it does is effectively provide health and early game 3 vision wards instead of 2. No sorry I Wont do this. I get a pink ward, the entire team should be buying pink wards as it only costs 75 G, and placing them somewhere. Between my adc and I, we have 4 wards.

item 3302 does not give you all the gold you need. It also does not give you as much sustain nor the sheild. Sighstones are important even if your whole team wards. Not only does it let you ward late game when you cant buy pinkies, but people forget to ward and more vision will always give more control over the game, less deaths, more kills, and more objectives. Having 4 wards for your botlane is nice, thats if you even ward, but you need control over objectives beyond your lane. After you mentioned my rank, I decided to look up your account and matchistory. On your most recent game according to lol king, the rest of your team hadnt bought on pinky and your adc only placed 2 wards. Your build isn't so bad in a perfect game where everyone wards.

Now, if the jungler does come in, what do we do? well I am not only a tanky support, but I also do good damage because of the AP, so we kill their jungler. Kill their adc, and kill their sup who is probably a walking squishy rock because of all the useless support items they got. Now trust me on this because even in normal blind pick I own the enemy blitz in a mirror match because he gets those crappy items.

This only happens if the enemy bot lane doesn't follow up the enemy jungler. Your not that tanky with your build because your RoA hasn't stacked yet and you dont have other items due to lack of gold. You act as if your playing bots, that you could kill the enemy jungler and then their botlane STILL engages even though you just killed their jungler. Your situation here also acts as if your playing urf, we're your hook and kit has a low enough cooldown to kill their botlane after killing their jungler. I can't say how good of a blitzcrank compared to others you are, but I'll take your word for it.

With my build you should be expecting a surrender at 20, or ending the game before 30, so you dont really need to worry as much about barron and your pink wards should be good.

You mean the pink wards your team didnt buy? Or the pinkies you cant even buy once at full build. You kinda just said "My build is so good that the enemy shouldnt even make it to late game". Which is a good argument, because if you crush the enemy before your full build and baron might be killed, then you dont need to ward it and all that jazz. However, not all games are like this and as you climb in ranks, you will notice your too squishy and enemies can dodge much easier. Your damage won't be important if you can't hit it.

You do not understand how kills work as a support. As blitz you dont NEED to take the kills. But, its a whole lot better to secure a kill if your adc cant, than have your adc die in a fight. This way during that 10-20 second death time, your ADC can get ahead on farm compared to the enemy.

Why don't I understand? Your talking about blitzcrank, not the whole support class. I never said that supports aren't allowed to take kills. I said its not good if you can help it. If your adc will die, take it and save him. If your adc cant finish them off, take it. BUT, in general, supports shouldn't take kills if they have been secured as supports cant utilize the gold so much.

P.S Please do not use someones rank as a way of saying their argument is invalid. Rank usually = experience, but low rank =/= knows nothing.

JetjoeJun 11, 20161 votes

Remember Like I said youre bronze, its different.

People dont ward, the wont ward. People make mistakes. Silver + you can atleast count on your team to ward and listen to you. It is more reasonable.

Also your GPM is pretty low, you might get out of bronze if you fix that.

ArakadiaJun 11, 20161 votes

You kinda just ignored my whole post.

Whats GPM? Im not familiar with that term.

Like I said, in your most recent game as blitz where you didnt buy a sighston, your whole team didnt get one pinky all game. Your adc only placed 2 all game. And no one placed over 10 wards besides you.

JetjoeJun 11, 20161 votes

No I tried to answer it was best as I could. Bronzes dont ward, in my elo I dont have to worry about that because it is pretty customary for people to pink ward 2-3 times per game.

You could always get sight stone on a few other champions and also have that option. The reason I didnt care about warding at all in that game is because I as a support had more gold and better items than anyone on the enemy team. Part of league is about predicting your enemys movement. At lower elo its very easy to do this. If the top laner is top, the top laner is top, if the mid laner is mid the mid laner is mid, if the adc is bot the adc is bot. I cant see either the support, or the enemy jungler, so I will be careful going into the jungle, or only go in with someone else on my team so we can kill them both.

Does that make sense? I wasnt worried in this game about purchasing a sight stone at all, because I knew I wouldnt lose that. My girlfriend was in that game and she has horrible wifi and dc'ed so I didnt have to worry about it. If you go back to my original post I did state you can replace liandrys with w.e you want. If a sight stone is so valuable to you, by all means, go for it.

JetjoeJun 11, 20161 votes

I also wanted to add, tried a second and third PLAT game with my friend, we won the first, lost the second. Dominated lane both times. It was harder to get as many grabs in that elo though.

So.... I recommend this build especially for low ELO, where chances are, the ADC sucks.

ArakadiaJun 11, 20161 votes

n my elo I dont have to worry about that because it is pretty customary for people to pink ward 2-3 times per game.

Your most recent game as Blitz does not agree. Your team bought no pinkies, your adc only placed 2 wards all game, and everyone but you placed under 10 wards all game, some even lower then others. Your the support too, people count on you for warding as thats your job. Vision control is so important.

JetjoeJun 11, 20161 votes

I didnt care about the wards in this game. I was so fed, and so was the rest of my team, getting caught out in the Jg was not the problem. Wards just show you whats in THAT area, but you can infer based on which enemy is/isnt top, which enemy is /isnt mid.

if I play a very high elo game, you can replace liandrys with a warding support item.

QuephaJun 10, 20162 votes

Terrible build. No wards on a support and the Rylandry's combo does almost nothing on a Blitzcrank. Even if you were going for the AP Blitz build, you should be getting Abyssal Scepter, a hextech item (i can see benefits on him from both protobelt and GLP), things that actually synergize with his kit instead of spending gold on completely useless passives.

Truly PridefulJun 10, 20161 votes

How do you plan on getting all of that gold?

Where is your Sightstone? If you want to play Blitz like this just play a solo lane or learn to jungle him.

If you don't like Face of the Mountain or Relic Shield in general, you could always take a different support item. You're gimping yourself so badly without a gold item because you are basically saying 'I will either snowball or lose.'

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

Readmy previous response, I excluded the gold item I get, I dont continue building it though.

I will not lose my lane, we will get fed.

Truly PridefulJun 10, 20162 votes

Somehow I doubt you never lose the lane which is why this is either a 'Snowball or lose' type of thing. If the game doesn't end early, what are you going to do? You have no vision and you're trying to fund an extremely expensive build that only contains greedy items for yourself. I wouldn't call you a support as much as I would call you a "Support" like the AP mages that go bot and just build pure AP with no Sightstone.

I also don't understand your build at all either. Both Liandry and Rylai's are pointless on Blitz, you'd be better off with some kind of sheen item and getting max CDR to hook and E more often.

Good luck to you though, I feel bad for your ADC if you don't snowball hard.

JetjoeJun 10, 20161 votes

No this is incorrect. As I did mention in my original post, liandrys can be replaced by something if need be. I would honestly get something like item 3065 item 3071 item 3110 .

As I mentioned earlier regarding vision. it is your JUNGLERS job to ward the enemy jungle, he should be placing a pink at their blue bush. he should be smiting his own wolves, and warding their red somewhere.

You and your ADC have 4 wards combined, which is plenty enough. You should have map awareness and back off if your mid lane or top lane go MIA. And you should have enough tankyness and AP damage to kill all three, enemy bot lane, and their jungle

IF you play correctly as blitz you should have atleast one kill in the first 5 minutes and start snowballing kills from there. Your adc and yourself should be super fed, much higher in experience levels, to kill the enemy. If you are maintaining a steady lead on your enemy bot lane they should be still trying to cross level 6 at 10 minutes and the rest of you are probably level 9 maybe 10.

you should not feel bad for my ADC. I played it in a diamond ranked game the other day and my ADC said I was trolling him. I missed my first hook and he got mad and went AFK (or disconnected) for about 2 minutes. He came back with 2 levels less of experience compared to enemy bot lane and we still won the lane by 5 kills in 10 minutes. Why? I had an extra heal. I was tanky.

Rylais is not pointless on blitz. The 100 AP and 400 health is a good enough combination to make it worth the item on blitz.

If we lose a game, IVe lost 1/25, its because the rest of our team has fed wayyyyy too much, nearly intentionally.

Ive had 3-4 games where our top lane was 0/6, and our mid lane was 1/5. My ADC and I? 11/2 and 4/1/14. At 15 minutes.

Truly PridefulJun 10, 20161 votes

No, when you queued as a support you made it YOUR job to be a primary vision provider for your team. That isn't just wards, that is vision denial as well. If you keep your yellow trinket you cannot remove enemy vision without pink wards which isn't practical, especially if you could easily just buy a Sightstone and build Eye of Equinox out of that Relic shield you already have.

I can argue the other side of the point that if you're playing correctly you will have at least one kill. If I am playing correctly, you will not hit me with a hook. Like I said, you are relying on snowballing and if you don't I would guess you generally lose the game because your build isn't possible without snowballing or a 60 minute game.

Rylai's is pointless because if you're going to build AP, at least build items he gets more benefit from. He uses Sheen items so well that it feels too good to not get one if you are that hellbent on building damage. Even Abyssal would probably be a better item and it offers an aura useful to other people on your team. Still wouldn't build him this way regardless, he does his job fine building traditionally with high CDR.

TNHA BaritoneJun 10, 20161 votes

NO HE JUST SAID HE'D BUILD A BLACK CLEAVER ON BLITZCRANK

http://i.imgur.com/w8gVlt2.gif

#JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL