keep thinking no one lets me solo drag at 5 mins, ive been doing it and will continue to do it :D i dont need you to tell me if I can or cant (your type of thinking is why I can do it)
My type of thinking assumes that Dragon remains properly warded/scuttlecrab is maintained.
I fail to see how this type of thinking lets you get free 5 minute dragons but whatever.
... you cant be serious with that statement
Let us compare him to other junglers.
Lee sin: Provides vision, a slow, has a knockback that also knocks others up into the air if struck. Possesses a shield that he grants to both himself and his fellow champons.
Jarvan: AoE knock up, AoE slow, AoE terrain that can be used to proc stuns such as Vayne's crossbolt.
Warwick: AD steroid, ST suppression that suppresses him and the target until interrupted.
Yeah...he has LOTS of utility.
Warwick is categorized as a low utility jungler by...everyone. Including Riot.
It is upon the author to try is best to help others understand, it is not the authors fault for having his audience not comprehend his meaning when he has tried his hardest.
Actually it is, if your audience misinterprets or misunderstands what you stated, the fault primarily falls upon you, the speaker.
One can only interpret, and when you provide such a context you create a source for the misunderstanding to occur.
If you immediately blame the audience for the misinterpretation of your stance, then that is never any good.
Theory like this is malleable enough to work after enough thought. If you assume it wont be able to work it wont, if you put effort in thought it will.
Not really, because there are many, many factors, and much of them assume that you are left alone to do as you please.
The main issue with jungling just isn't the difficulty, its also what happens when you are counter jungled.
If I am Warwick and you're Lee Sin, I know you have no choice but to back after the 3rd or 4th camp. This leaves me plenty of time to go and steal your 2nd buff, and steal your birds.
You use 1 example of pre season I call upon the entire history of league, and any other major video game. My sources beat your measly one
We use the current context to discuss something, and your "sources", which is really just your anecdotal experience, doesn't mean shit if you don't cite them and utilize them within the context.
"I have sources! They matter!"
Then use them.
Yes there will always be a "best" but as we see in league they are very good keeping things close with most champs between a 10% difference in win loss ratio which is pretty balanced, for having more then 100 champions, and a lot of champion options really come down to who is better with their selected champion
I do not agree with this, there is a reason that you have some champions like Urgot who just aren't good, and champions such as Lucian who dominate their respective lanes.
You really cannot rely upon win/loss ratio because there is often a large skill gap.
When there isn't, team comp and coordination become a major factor.
So we really cannot look at win rate and suggest that it can be used as a viable tool of determining whether or not something is balanced.
Yes there will be champions with more options, however when it comes to down to the 2nd tier of jungle items, the way they work shouldn't have these walls as much as it is. Now when it comes to tier 3 thats where you narrow it down compared to your type choice, but the tier 2 choices shouldnt be so restricted, especially with each one offering a different aspect of jungling, maybe I want to play more counter jungle this game, regardless of the champion I play I should be able to do this, or maybe I want to be more agressive with my ganks I should be able to pick it without the hindrance of I need to get a few good ganks in or GG for me.
Part of that issue lies primarily within how the jungle works rather than the actual items themselves.
100 second respawn means counter junglig with nunu/ww is disgustingly effective.
The lower exp means you can set someone back forever
