Riot are you serious with these support changes?

R18·1/10/2018, 3:24:57 PM·4 votes·383 views

PLEASE do not remove sightstone. It's a core part of the support role, and removing it will ruin the role for me and many others. There's a better way to resolve this. Real supports WILLINGLY buy sightstone to win games, we don't feel OBLIGATED to do so though. The only players who don't are those who are autofilled into the role, and want to carry, those are not real supports. Please don't alter the support role any further :(

5 Comments

Primaquarius1/10/2018, 3:42:20 PM3 votes

Oh right I didnt notice that

Why the FK would you willingly destroy a role like that? Yea I definitely need to change my core role when I finally come back to this game

Kokua1/10/2018, 3:48:54 PM2 votes

I personally love the idea of Sightstone, and don't feel obligated to buy it. In fact, I feel like it serves a great purpose, and I WANT to buy it. It's cost effective, and gold is something that supports generally get less of. It also serves as a decent upgrade for the early gold income items. It helps to improve visibility without having to constantly buy additional wards. I personally would hate having to resort to purchasing consumable wards every time I go back. I love the idea of things that refresh when you go back to your base, whether it's sightstone, or potions. I really... really... dislike consumables. Except for those obtained from Klepto. But I prefer to sell those rather than consume them.

** They do mention this though: Support items will gain Sightstone’s active as their quest reward.

While this is a way to try and sneak it back in without making it feel like something you buy separate, I often get Sightstone long before the quest completes. Meaning, you have that much less vision for a longer period of time. If they change the quests to make them more easily obtainable around the same time people would generally have Sightstone, that would actually be a benefit

** And I just found out: Quest reward thresholds are reduced to 500 gold.

So, maybe there's still some hope... They're removing the item, but still keeping the concept. I guess we'll just have to see how it goes. It might actually be a good thing.

I originally read this post, wrote my comment, found the dev post, then edited my comments. If you actually read through it... it doesn't seem all that bad of a concept.

My preferred champion is Random. My preferred role is Support. My username literally translates to support.

OurLestrade1/10/2018, 3:48:56 PM2 votes

I think it's a good idea how they're approacing it, and alters the vision game in interesting ways. We can only wait and see.

x Wyvern x1/10/2018, 4:45:09 PM1 votes

Supports are the only role that are obligated to fill a slot always with a super cheap item that doesn't provide any real utility or stats to the player. Contributing to vision shouldn't be a permanent item slot as you will be playing with one less item than the other players on your team and enemy team, this makes Supports weaker.

Sightstone is a core item on supports because supports have to provide vision to the team, but the changes merge non active items (tier 2 starting supp items) freeing that slot for other purposes, its like when we had the jungle item changes more less and people that doesnt build sightstone because they want to build other stuff (ap or being more tanky or just utility) wont need to rush the item because its included as a quest.

On the other hand, they are removing the old quests and final actives which is a huge nerf imo, I hope they add them somehow back without removing the changes tho.