Camille & Orianna

R18··3 votes·4,256 views

For some reason, I feel like Camille and Orianna will be closely related by lore. I speculate that the Camille was the person the robot, Orianna, was supposed to copy.

Here's my reasoning:

  1. Orianna and Camille both a bun in their hair. Camille's is noticeable in some parts of the comic (p. 4) and they both have blue eyes (Even though they are robotic, there's likely a reason for this)
  2. Orianna was from Piltover, while Camille is from Zaun. Both technological advanced cities. There is a lot of revival in previous champion lores, and seeing that Piltover is Right above Zaun, and it might be the case here.
  3. Unlike Orianna, Camille is likely a cyborg because she understands feeling and emotion, unlike the coldblooded machine. If reason 2 is correct, this is likely as well.

Answers to counterarguments: Q. Camille has white hair, while Orianna had blonde/brown hair. A. Pigment goes away. If you've died, or had excessively high stress levels, you may go through something known as Marie Antionette Syndrome. (Tokyo Ghoul :D)

Q. Wasn't Orianna a ballerina? A. Yes, but Camille's robotic legs enforce the link between them further. In the comic, Camille moves and fights elegantly, like a dancer.

Q. Why would Orianna (original) kill? A. Well, in the comic, she betrayed Volkage possibly in a fit of rage, and quote "No one stays innocent forever" This is my most concrete evidence, as it displays the transformation from dancer, to killer.

I know this PROBABLY isn't correct, but I am pretty sure they have SOME sort of link to one another

12 Comments

Crimson Cupcake4 votes

While I know Orianna is a not copy of Camille, I do think that they will be closely related. When I saw the picture for the reveal that was my initial thought.

"She looks related to Orianna."

However, the Orianna we know (the robot) is based off of a real girl, also named Orianna, that died young due to sickness. Her father, in his grief, created a beautiful, perfect, exact copy of her (at least in his eyes, as this is very much not the case). When we look at the tech that went into robot Orianna though, we see some similarities, as mentioned above.

My theory on this is that perhaps the loving father who crafted Orianna, is the very same man who assisted Camille in her augmentation. I might be totally wrong, but I think this situation would be very interesting if proven correct.

TL;DR Orianna is not based off of Camille. The real Orianna is dead and the Orianna we know is a robot version of her.

R181 votes

About the naming, I'm pretty sure you'd use an alias after death. Even though my theory doesn't have TOO much evidence, neither does the Jinx and Vi sibling theory, which most people agree with.

I'm confused on your TLDR. While I respect your opinion, It has lest factual evidence than mine.

Crimson Cupcake1 votes

Who are you referring to as dead exactly? Camille is confirmed to be just an augmented human, not a robot. (link ⟶) https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5dhlow/camille_severed_ties_new_champion_revealed/da4u7ql/

As for Orianna, she is based off of Corin Reveck's dead daughter who was also named Orianna. http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/orianna

I had all the factual information I needed, I was just running under the assumption you had the same information as I did. It seems as though you don't, which is no big deal, so I've now provided some helpful links as well to back up what I was saying. My TL;DR should now make more sense too! :D

Nixtarma1 votes

Where was Camille's augmented status confirmed? It certainly appears that way, but if a Rioter said something, I would like to know.

Crimson Cupcake1 votes

I already supplied that link. That picture there is a link to the post where a Rioter confirmed she is just an augmented human. I'll put it down in this comment as well though. You'll notice the way the question was phrased is oddly perfect for this post. :)

(↓ THIS IS THE LINK ↓)

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/5dhlow/camille_severed_ties_new_champion_revealed/da4u7ql/

(↑ THIS IS THE LINK ↑)

Nixtarma1 votes

Well, I missed the link the first time through. Oops O_O

That picture is just linking me to this thread, though.

Crimson Cupcake1 votes

No problem! :D I understand how it was hard to see, since it was showing up as a picture for whatever reason, haha.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

The plot thickens....

reaperteaser1 votes

i'll ship it

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

I think they could be lore related to each other. The theory that Camille is actually the original Orianna, which got saved from death by an operation making her a cyborg, is really interesting and has potential. I don't think we will ever know, but it is one of these theories that could actually be while having no real proof.

But to correct some stuff:

  1. Camille seems to be from Piltover, not Zaun.
  2. She didn't "betray" Baron Volkage. She seems to be some kind of dark knight or special agent, killing targets who are dangerous for the peace of Piltover.

Not weakening your arguments, just pointing it out to be correct. The reasoning that her fighting style could remind of a dancer and the line "no one stays innocent forever" are really good points. Well spotted.

Someone in here saw Mardock Scramble? ^^ Could be a scenario like this. Someone from Piltover secret service made her an offer to save her life, but she has to accept to get transformed into a cyborg and of course she has to work for them.

FloRaider421 votes

Orianna and Camille both a bun in their hair.

  • Piltover fashion ? they both have blue eyes
  • Since Hextech magic is often blue that could be the reason for both Orianna was from Piltover, while Camille is from Zaun.
  • Both are from Piltover

I don't think they are connected, because:

  • Having the same person twice is just weird
  • There is no reason for OG Orianna to be resurected / become a killer (the comic actually shows her as an assassin on a routine assigment to eliminate possible threats to Piltover from Zaun)
Chembaron Yamada1 votes

It wouldn't have been the same person twice. The champion Orianna is just a robot build as an homage to a living woman, his theory was that Camille is actually the woman Orianna was built as a copy of.

However, since Riot gave us some lore about Camille, it seems there is no way she is that person.

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