Why in God's name does Illaoi do so much damage?

UnityOE·Aug 7, 2019·5 votes·2,228 views

Illaoi does so much damage it is literally insane. It seems like her only counters are squishy enough to get dropped down to 50% health with one burst from her and she scales too well.

23 Comments

The EcdysiastAug 7, 20196 votes

That's the definition of a juggernaut.

The Bad TouchAug 7, 20196 votes

Because if you dodge her E she does zero damage? https://imgur.com/JdVqmF2

I mean with champs like Mordekaiser Azir Tristana Alistar Bard Malzahar Warwick XinZhao Skarner Blitzcrank Pyke Thresh Nautilus about I really don't see the issue.

UnityOEAug 7, 20193 votes

Literally none of those champs can go top except Mord, and Blitz from what I've seen. And Illaoi is a top-laner.

The Bad TouchAug 7, 20195 votes

It's a 5v5 game man.... don't feed in lane.... Dodge her E, farm, and just keep doing that. Once team fights start any of the above counter her.

saphireflame123Aug 7, 20193 votes

If you dodge her E she still has R, Q, W, and autos.

JamareeAug 7, 20195 votes

Because it is all she gets, she doesn't get tankiness, CC, mobility, or range, so all she gets is that damage.

Also, she has quite a lot of counterplay once you understand her kit. She is utterly reliant on having a tentacle nearby, and Illaoi (unless fed) isn't going to kill you with this her W.

Her damage drops off a cliff if you dodge her E, her Q is also slowish and can be orbwalked around.

Most importantly of all, you can literally just walk away from her and her kit doesn't fluctuate her being able to chase. She ultis, literally just walk away and reset.

saphireflame123Aug 7, 20193 votes

Her sustain is more OP than tankiness, and she isn't a squish, either.

If her ult hits you, there is no "just walk away and reset". You'll take a bunch of damage.

JamareeAug 7, 20192 votes

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Her sustain is more OP than tankiness, and she isn't a squish, either.

Except it isn't, she is forced to build tank stats and items because she will get 100 to zeroed against players that are competent without them. Lot of good all that sustain does if you can't even start leeching.

If her ult hits you, there is no "just walk away and reset". You'll take a bunch of damage.

Don't let it hit you, she is slow not mobile, and incredibly easy to kite.

saphireflame123Aug 7, 20192 votes

Lets see... She's a top laner, and most top laners are melee, so if you want to fight, you can't not let it hit you.

Also, flash.

JamareeAug 7, 20192 votes

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Lets see... She's a top laner, and most top laners are melee, so if you want to fight, you can't not let it hit you.

Yeah, and if it doesn't hit you, again, no damage, no tentacle, also no damage.

Also, flash.

What is stopping you from flashing?

saphireflame123Aug 7, 20192 votes

As a melee, you can't dodge her R except using flash.

PhearBunnyAug 7, 20193 votes

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As a melee, you can't dodge her R except using flash.

Turn around and run? She cant CC you and force you to sit in it.

saphireflame123Aug 7, 20192 votes

Its an immediate slam. You can't "turn around and run". Even if you do she can still leap on you with W.

PhearBunnyAug 9, 20192 votes

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Its an immediate slam. You can't "turn around and run". Even if you do she can still leap on you with W.

At worst you might take a slam or two, youll be okay. unless your reaction is just severely late.

saphireflame123Aug 10, 20191 votes

A slam or two will get you to half health if you aren't a tank. So it may not kill you if you manage to get out like that, but it is a severe damage trade in her favor.

PhearBunnyAug 10, 20191 votes

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A slam or two will get you to half health if you aren't a tank. So it may not kill you if you manage to get out like that, but it is a severe damage trade in her favor.

yeah. But youre still alive. And now Illaoi is useless for over 1minute.

saphireflame123Aug 11, 20191 votes

Her ult isn't the only thing about her that does anything...

PhearBunnyAug 7, 20195 votes

the issue with Illaoi is that her success is put in her opponents hands rather than in her own. She is dependent on you/your team being dumb enough to fight in her ult- under the impression that u can 3v1 her in it. You cant. If Illaio ults you run away. Thats just what you do. Disengage and go back in once her ult is on CD. UNLESS your team is just way ahead and u can do whatever u want. In that case, do whatever u want.

Tahminatrix Aug 7, 20194 votes

She gets kited, easy to disengage from her ult..

Basically she is a frontline carry that needs a tank not to peel her to keep her alive, but to keep the enemy team in place long enough for her to combo.

WilwindAug 7, 20194 votes

Because she needed a buff :upside_down:

WoodakoodashoodaAug 7, 20194 votes

Because that's all she is. Damage

Also, technically, dodging her skills is the way to avoid her damage, but then all you end up doing is staying out of her skill range and allowing her to out farm you.

She has no mobility. She is easily kited. And there are champions who out sustain her so long as you eliminate her tentacles, avoid fighting her in her ultimate, and buy grievous wounds early on.

ZephyrDrakeAug 7, 20191 votes

Because she literally has nothing else? She has no mobility or hard CC. Her range is close to non existent. She is a juggernaut, champions who do a lot of damage if they manage to get close to you.

xDogMeatxAug 7, 20194 votes

actually her range is her E. thats her gap closer not distance wise but a heavy slow will suffice.