Why never to surrender ranked games...

Aerki Jyr··11 votes·1,544 views

People say, 'they're fed, it's over, gg'...and I say, 'WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?'

Do you not understand how this game works? A 'fed' player is two things...

  1. they have more gold(meaning more items)
  2. they have a higher level based off experience

Fed players are a pain to handle, but if you can stall out the game, just defend and turret hug, everyone reaches level 18. That removed the 'fedness' #2 problem.

If you keep stalling until everyone is at full builds, that removes the 'fedness' #1 problem.

And thus, the fed people are no longer fed. The game has evened out.

So why do so many people surrender, saying its a waste of time, when the game is built to equalize over the long run?

No one should ever surrender a ranked game when there is a way to potentially win it. If you can stall, then there's a potential path to victory. If you're too impatient to stall, then don't play ranked and stop wasting people's points with needless surrenders.

Seriously, does no one understand this???????

14 Comments

S0kaX2 votes

When their Nasus has 400 stacks in min 18 it's already over, but I get your point.

Ben Sharpio2 votes

i dont understand why people would want to play out a 50 minute game. Throughout that 50 minutes, it's actually hell. AFK farming, you can't leave your base, countless amounts of surrender vote fails, toxicity ect. When you could literally open mid at 10-15 minutes and move on to the next game.

Aerki Jyr4 votes

Because you're playing for points in ranked, and if you can pull out one of those 'hopeless' games it's worth it.

DemainaNyx3 votes

Why play Summoners Rift at all then if you want to give up in 10-15 minutes? Go play ARAM. Those games end much quicker so you don't have to worry about your teammates feeding cause the game will be over in 10 minutes anyway.

SR warns you that games may take between 30-40 minutes. If you seriously can't muster up enough effort to at least play a game that long, why play?

Aerki Jyr2 votes

Sometimes the champ matchup is just bad, but there are situations where a 400 stack nasus isn't a big deal. I'm thinking morg, or lux, or someone with a stun while ranged damaged champs just eat Nasus alive. If you have no good cc, then there's always the split push while you try and slow nasus down. There are so many ways to play this game that non-feeders almost always have a route to victory.

Tobias Brackner2 votes

Okay, so I like the spirit of your argument. However, pure stalling isn't the solution since if they have a tank they can start tower diving you and even if they don't people will eventually remember that item 3056 exists.

I agree that people shouldn't just /ff the moment the game starts getting rough but the only way to come back is to go for outplays and aggressive map plays. Looking for picks and trying to get objectives.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Nah, I don't wanna play out a game with feeders. Sorry but we need to surrender. Fuck the LP. I'll get it back when I don't have garbage teams in future games.

Weasel Kensei1 votes

In my time in the game I have seen some incredible throws...

Now that said, when you have that one person on your team that is just doing stupid shit all the time and just wont stop split pushing as the ADC, you kill 4 people and then your jungler goes to farm Gromp camp, you ace the team at the top inhib turret and have 15 seconds to kill it and instead your team goes to baron... then yeah pack it in, there really isnt any hope. Some teams are just too dumb to know how to end.

When everyone is trying and that one fed player is just sucking up a lot of kills though, farm it out, see what happens. These are the games you can win given time. When your team isnt stupid, just struggling to deal with a snowballed carry, dont tilt, throwing may happen.

Here is my video on the issue.

Notice how at the start of the video, we are in a 13v25 game at 20 min. Thats ff@20 teritory for some, but we stuck it out, I wont spoil the ending... but the title is "Dont BM." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0nlqLpqNY

paisy1 votes

What if everyone is fed? :thinking:

6Sfool1 votes

That works only if your late game comps are evenly matched or favors you. If they end up with a fed Kogmaw and tons of peel, and you have all early game champs, you're screwed.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

I shouldn't have to rely on the enemy team to start playing drastically worse than they have been for the first 25 minutes of the game. Refusing to surrender in the hopes of them throwing takes the ball out of your own court and relies on the 25-5 enemy team to suddenly lose 100 IQ.

Hallbuster1 votes

This is pretty much true for "most" scenarios but only in lower elos. Most players don't know how to press advantages and know when it's actually ok to tower dive to make use of the gold advantage.

When my team has the lead, I make sure to always initiate team fights and force them to give up their towers or die along with it.

Ap Mid Burst1 votes

I would rather play another game rather than dragging the game out to 50 minutes with a 5% chance of victory.

Volibear Boss1 votes

Sometimes i just feel like we dont deserve to win, i mean we did everything wrong that could be done wrong, and now our 2/16 Vayne 1v3 enemy team and carries, feelbadman.

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