Be a tank , smash faces

Revive Aatrox·Jul 20, 2016·4 votes·879 views

Riot actually once said ''Any champion can be frustrating to play against when they’re capable of building very tanky while still outputting considerable DPS, so we're lowering some of ''xx' innate damage. With this change, 'xx' must build items for damage and won’t be able to simultaneously tank and smash face as easily. ''

Why is Cho Gath allowed to have a Q that has 305 (+ 100% AP) (AOE) and a ult 650 (+ 70% AP) (true damage) And has 1080 free health . he's a tank i get the free health but the ultimate really. true damage. Like before the mage updates there was less items with health and magic but now. OMFG. 5000 health cho with 400 ap. GG RITO

Edit 1 : 5000 health and 500 ap.

18 Comments

ZT XperimentorJul 20, 201612 votes

Unlike other champions, chogath actually has a harder time dodging anything when fed. [slayer-jinx-wink] No seriously, his hitbox increases with stacks; besides he's also one of the few immobile tanks out there.

EndlessSorcererJul 20, 20167 votes

Cho'gath's Q has a delay, his ultimate is melee-range and his ultimate's bonus health increases the size of his hitbox (and keeps it on cooldown while he is stacking it up).

In addition, Cho'gath is an immobile champion who needs to be within melee-range for a significant amount of his damage to be applied. This allows for some raw power to be added to his kit that more mobile champions may lack.

The Cho'gath you just lost to built Rod of Ages, Rylai's Crystal Scepter and Void Staff. He built a significant amount of damage.

However, you were playing Aatrox and you fell behind. He's not a great champion in the first place, but Aatrox is notoriously weak if you fall behind (and in general).

Revive AatroxJul 20, 20162 votes

The delay on Q is the same as Aatrox delay on Q the worst feeling ever. Plus for an immobile champ he still got 345 mvm speed which is high. Melee range is almost 300 when stacked. Q got a super long range and W a weak range but still range.

RalanrJul 20, 20164 votes

That's not that high.

Revive AatroxJul 20, 20161 votes

try 325

RalanrJul 20, 20164 votes

The movement speed for ADCs? So? They have ranged AA. Cho has to walk up to you.

Tanks can't have slow movement speeds.

EndlessSorcererJul 20, 20162 votes

Nautilus has 325 MS due to how much CC his kit has (among other factors).

340 and 345 are normal movement speeds for melee champions, but there are exceptions depending on their kits.

RalanrJul 20, 20161 votes

Fair.

ZT XperimentorJul 21, 20161 votes

Then riot's favorite, leesin; having 2 dashes, 2 aoe crowd controls, one of the highest base movement speeds in the game (350), ontop of high ratios & base damage. Repeatedly buffed for no reason other than people fail with him.

RalanrJul 20, 20164 votes

Because he's old as fuck with a kit from ancient times.

Revive AatroxJul 20, 20161 votes

Ya man old as fuck with a kit from ancient time. I gotta Agree. he really need a VGU

Revive AatroxJul 20, 20161 votes

Prehistoric Cho Gath

driow123Jul 20, 20163 votes

Dude, Tahm Kench and Fiora exist. Also, MOVE! Illaoi

Revive AatroxJul 20, 20161 votes

exatcly my point . be a tank smash faces. ''but your immobile'' is the shit i always ear, which makes no sense as a real argument. Xerath is immobile is he a tank..nope... WTF is that logic.

RalanrJul 20, 20164 votes

There is a lot of information you seem to be missing.

Start from the beginning please, what do you not understand about tanks?

driow123Jul 21, 20161 votes

Come to think of it, almost every champion that synergizes with Hextech Protobelt, becomes "mobile", but what i was suggesting is that true damage, percentage health damage, and long range counters tanks. Think of a super fed Cho'Gath, being slowly peeled by an ultra fed Caitlyn's team, while she is whittling him down autoattack by autoattack. Last Whisper upgrades work, also, have you tried exhaust? And a last thing, all of your argument's logic comes to play into lategame.

Wolfram OxfordJul 20, 20161 votes

Actually tank AP was buffed, not nerfed.

AptestJul 21, 20161 votes

because he has a close range kit and the only way for him to close the range is one of the easiest dodges in the game. He has absolutely no sticking power and basically can't keep up with anyone.