This Tahm Kench Denied His ADC a Penta in the Funniest Way
https://youtu.be/v20W_JwVdWk?t=118
That Vayne wanted a Penta, Tahm said "Nope"
https://youtu.be/v20W_JwVdWk?t=118
That Vayne wanted a Penta, Tahm said "Nope"
Good. It's bullshit that she literally 1v4'd them and got a quadra. I would have done the same thing if I were that Tahm.
Agreed. I can only imagine how hilariously pissed that Vayne was.
Why is it bullshit?
Because the ADC is the one that does the most damage in the game, at the expense of requiring the protection of their teammates. The fact that she goes into a 1v4 with absolutely no backup (especially insulting since there were 2 assassins there) and got a quadrakill out of it is bullshit. There you go, the only weakness of the marksman class has been completely overcome. Videos like this are also why Vayne players treat their supports like shit, they see this and think "Ok this
is here to let me farm but after that I don't need her, she's dead weight so I can treat her like garbage".
except the enemy team burned their CDs taking the Baron (and singed was at 25% hp from tanking Baron), so realistically, any ADC or APC could have went in and started ripping them apart.
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Because the ADC is the one that does the most damage in the game, at the expense of requiring the protection of their teammates. The fact that she goes into a 1v4 with absolutely no backup (especially insulting since there were 2 assassins there) and got a quadrakill out of it is bullshit. There you go, the only weakness of the marksman class has been completely overcome. Videos like this are also why Vayne players treat their supports like shit, they see this and think "Ok this
is here to let me farm but after that I don't need her, she's dead weight so I can treat her like garbage".
are we ignoring the 100% crit chance, with ie, level 18, full build against 4 not full hp, not level 18 people with zero stealth detection who were already weak in terms of items but even weaker during a baron fight?
your classifying all players of vayne, or any adc for that matter, into a stereotype that is inaccurate and unfair. Yes, that quadra may have been over-the-top but things like that happen in league and the fact that you believe this specific capitalization of the enemy's mistakes is nonsense reveals your lack of understanding for the game. Plus, it sounds like your jealous.
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Good. It's bullshit that she literally 1v4'd them and got a quadra. I would have done the same thing if I were that Tahm.
Take into considerations other factors before you call a champ bullshit or OP.
Ashe had 7 stacks of baron debuff. Singed had 3. Yi didn't have ult. Nid was completely useless staying in courgar form.
Not to mention, Vayne was 2 levels above most of them.
You let any fighter/assassin/marksmen (Darius, Garen, Riven, Akali, Kat, Cait, Trist, the list goes on) with 2 levels above them, and those factors above applied, they can easily get a quad.
The way the they played, this is probably a blind pick or bronze level game.
Yes, let's forget to mention the utter lack of skill of the enemy team, no spear landed, nothing, not a flip because singed was too low, barely any focus at all on Vayne with the only damage on her coming from basic attacks and ALSO the fact that she was hella fed as a late game carry and the enemy team obviously burned their cooldowns.
But yeah that's BS cuz it's Vayne, right?
Meanwhile, any other fed AP or AD carry worth their salt doing the same thing : WOW, GOOD JOB DUDE!
Basically yeah. I call it the "overpowered syndrome" - whatever champion people think is overpowered (Vayne, Lee Sin, Riven, etc.) if they get any kind of win or kills or whatever, even if they got it because the player was skilled, or their opponents messed up it's "God fuck that op champ"
Like the champ being who it is just gives it kills or something, and every kill they get is undeserved.
New tier of I'm Helping.
Jarvan would be jealous.
I don't always manage to stack my passive, but when I do, it's an automatic KS.
if they didnt secure the kill the selves they cant blame you for getting it
Vayne is not a normal ADC though. She's an assassin adc, sort of like a ranged Master Yi.
Also the way that fight played out seemed reasonable to me. She was full build, had 90% crit chance and a
- she started the fight by taking out their ADC first, then killed their tank, Singed, since he had like 20% health left from tanking the baron, then killed Nidalee, and finally Yi.
She was able to do that because their support was out of position and not able to peel for Ashe, and their tank was out of health. She picked her targets intelligently and made good use of their position in the jungle and picked them off 1 by 1. There was nothing unfair or unreasonable about that fight - the enemy team got caught out by a full build assassin. That's all.
Vayne is not a normal ADC though. She's an assassin adc, sort of like a ranged Master Yi.
Also the way that fight played out seemed reasonable to me. She was full build, had 90% crit chance and a
- she started the fight by taking out their ADC first, then killed their tank, Singed, since he had like 20% health left from tanking the baron, then killed Nidalee, and finally Yi.
She was able to do that because their support was out of position and not able to peel for Ashe, and their tank was out of health. She picked her targets intelligently and made good use of their position in the jungle and picked them off 1 by 1. There was nothing unfair or unreasonable about that fight - the enemy team got caught out by a full build assassin. That's all.
Could potentially be 100% crit chance if she has the runes for it. Didn't see her land a single normal hit.
it's 95% crit chance without runes. 35% phantom DancerX2 + 25% IE.
just the right number of rolls lets her get away with not landing a normal since it was only a 5% chance at best.
cough 20% IE
wow. well it just became obvious that i dont adc much.
honestly though i could have sworn it was 25% once upon a time and i just never noticed that it's 20% now.
or maybe it always was and im just off. oh well. not much left to say other than "well damn."
It used to be, but they lowered the ratio of IE and Infinity edge a while back while buffing PD by 5%
I guess Riot got sick of the then strong
combo.
It was a change that happened, if I had to guess, about 6 months ago, though that's probably off. It was definitely a season 5 change, so it's not too bad for you
Edit: Patch 5.1 was the change, so start of the year, 8 months, not a bad guess.
That's the main thing I noticed. She wasn't just attacking random enemies. She picked them off in just the right order to pull off the quad.
Also the Yi was either underfed or was really unlucky with his crits.
"Vayne is not op, she's very balanced because of her early game..."
It's mostly funny that it happened to Vayne. Any other adc and I probably wouldn't have been entertained.
Has anyone also forgot that no one brought a pink to the fight vs Vayne?
Seriously? Complaining about lack of counterplay when there is one huge one there.
Love the people complaining about the 1v4 quadra. I'm sorry but she walked up and fought them in a bunch of 1v1s until there was no one left to CC her and they all took damage from Baron. Enemy team got shown how much focusing the ADC actually is important and why you don't go "dum de dum dum dum imma kill Baron and ignore my teammates dying".
I was really hoping that kench ate her and ran into fountain with her. still hilarious though.
Report the Tahm for Negative Attitude?
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Report the Tahm for Negative Attitude?
More like assisting enemy team