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Only Play Darius21 votes

Good. It's bullshit that she literally 1v4'd them and got a quadra. I would have done the same thing if I were that Tahm.

Toa of Death10 votes

Agreed. I can only imagine how hilariously pissed that Vayne was.

JedenVojak1 votes

Why is it bullshit?

Only Play Darius13 votes

Because the ADC is the one that does the most damage in the game, at the expense of requiring the protection of their teammates. The fact that she goes into a 1v4 with absolutely no backup (especially insulting since there were 2 assassins there) and got a quadrakill out of it is bullshit. There you go, the only weakness of the marksman class has been completely overcome. Videos like this are also why Vayne players treat their supports like shit, they see this and think "Ok this Sona is here to let me farm but after that I don't need her, she's dead weight so I can treat her like garbage".

flibitydoo13 votes

except the enemy team burned their CDs taking the Baron (and singed was at 25% hp from tanking Baron), so realistically, any ADC or APC could have went in and started ripping them apart.

brad2 votes

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Because the ADC is the one that does the most damage in the game, at the expense of requiring the protection of their teammates. The fact that she goes into a 1v4 with absolutely no backup (especially insulting since there were 2 assassins there) and got a quadrakill out of it is bullshit. There you go, the only weakness of the marksman class has been completely overcome. Videos like this are also why Vayne players treat their supports like shit, they see this and think "Ok this Sona is here to let me farm but after that I don't need her, she's dead weight so I can treat her like garbage".

are we ignoring the 100% crit chance, with ie, level 18, full build against 4 not full hp, not level 18 people with zero stealth detection who were already weak in terms of items but even weaker during a baron fight?

FreakenRican1 votes

your classifying all players of vayne, or any adc for that matter, into a stereotype that is inaccurate and unfair. Yes, that quadra may have been over-the-top but things like that happen in league and the fact that you believe this specific capitalization of the enemy's mistakes is nonsense reveals your lack of understanding for the game. Plus, it sounds like your jealous.

Project Riven4 votes

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Good. It's bullshit that she literally 1v4'd them and got a quadra. I would have done the same thing if I were that Tahm.

Take into considerations other factors before you call a champ bullshit or OP.

Ashe had 7 stacks of baron debuff. Singed had 3. Yi didn't have ult. Nid was completely useless staying in courgar form.

Not to mention, Vayne was 2 levels above most of them.

You let any fighter/assassin/marksmen (Darius, Garen, Riven, Akali, Kat, Cait, Trist, the list goes on) with 2 levels above them, and those factors above applied, they can easily get a quad.

The way the they played, this is probably a blind pick or bronze level game.

Auryiel4 votes

Yes, let's forget to mention the utter lack of skill of the enemy team, no spear landed, nothing, not a flip because singed was too low, barely any focus at all on Vayne with the only damage on her coming from basic attacks and ALSO the fact that she was hella fed as a late game carry and the enemy team obviously burned their cooldowns.

But yeah that's BS cuz it's Vayne, right?

Meanwhile, any other fed AP or AD carry worth their salt doing the same thing : WOW, GOOD JOB DUDE!

JedenVojak3 votes

Basically yeah. I call it the "overpowered syndrome" - whatever champion people think is overpowered (Vayne, Lee Sin, Riven, etc.) if they get any kind of win or kills or whatever, even if they got it because the player was skilled, or their opponents messed up it's "God fuck that op champ"

Like the champ being who it is just gives it kills or something, and every kill they get is undeserved.

Count Buffon20 votes

New tier of I'm Helping.

EDIT: https://i.imgflip.com/pdeev.jpg

Zair Umbras1 votes

Jarvan would be jealous.

Count Buffon2 votes

I don't always manage to stack my passive, but when I do, it's an automatic KS.

LordGeovanni1 votes

if they didnt secure the kill the selves they cant blame you for getting it

JedenVojak15 votes

Vayne is not a normal ADC though. She's an assassin adc, sort of like a ranged Master Yi.

Also the way that fight played out seemed reasonable to me. She was full build, had 90% crit chance and a item 3102 - she started the fight by taking out their ADC first, then killed their tank, Singed, since he had like 20% health left from tanking the baron, then killed Nidalee, and finally Yi.

She was able to do that because their support was out of position and not able to peel for Ashe, and their tank was out of health. She picked her targets intelligently and made good use of their position in the jungle and picked them off 1 by 1. There was nothing unfair or unreasonable about that fight - the enemy team got caught out by a full build assassin. That's all.

WolfBV2 votes

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Vayne is not a normal ADC though. She's an assassin adc, sort of like a ranged Master Yi.

Also the way that fight played out seemed reasonable to me. She was full build, had 90% crit chance and a item 3102 - she started the fight by taking out their ADC first, then killed their tank, Singed, since he had like 20% health left from tanking the baron, then killed Nidalee, and finally Yi.

She was able to do that because their support was out of position and not able to peel for Ashe, and their tank was out of health. She picked her targets intelligently and made good use of their position in the jungle and picked them off 1 by 1. There was nothing unfair or unreasonable about that fight - the enemy team got caught out by a full build assassin. That's all.

Could potentially be 100% crit chance if she has the runes for it. Didn't see her land a single normal hit.

Sinlaire1 votes

it's 95% crit chance without runes. 35% phantom DancerX2 + 25% IE.

just the right number of rolls lets her get away with not landing a normal since it was only a 5% chance at best.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

cough 20% IE

Sinlaire1 votes

wow. well it just became obvious that i dont adc much.

honestly though i could have sworn it was 25% once upon a time and i just never noticed that it's 20% now.

or maybe it always was and im just off. oh well. not much left to say other than "well damn."

JedenVojak1 votes

It used to be, but they lowered the ratio of IE and Infinity edge a while back while buffing PD by 5%

I guess Riot got sick of the then strong item 3031 item 3087 combo.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

It was a change that happened, if I had to guess, about 6 months ago, though that's probably off. It was definitely a season 5 change, so it's not too bad for you

Edit: Patch 5.1 was the change, so start of the year, 8 months, not a bad guess.

ayNigerianPrince3 votes

That's the main thing I noticed. She wasn't just attacking random enemies. She picked them off in just the right order to pull off the quad.

Tis a nice day2 votes

Also the Yi was either underfed or was really unlucky with his crits.

Ben Sharpio9 votes

"Vayne is not op, she's very balanced because of her early game..."

The Loveless4 votes

It's mostly funny that it happened to Vayne. Any other adc and I probably wouldn't have been entertained.

Lost In Time2 votes

Has anyone also forgot that no one brought a pink to the fight vs Vayne?

Seriously? Complaining about lack of counterplay when there is one huge one there.

Jefftiffy2 votes

Love the people complaining about the 1v4 quadra. I'm sorry but she walked up and fought them in a bunch of 1v1s until there was no one left to CC her and they all took damage from Baron. Enemy team got shown how much focusing the ADC actually is important and why you don't go "dum de dum dum dum imma kill Baron and ignore my teammates dying".

RottedApples1 votes

I was really hoping that kench ate her and ran into fountain with her. still hilarious though.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

Report the Tahm for Negative Attitude?

Leaf of the lake1 votes

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