My ideas for an Ashe rework.

Indorfin··3 votes·1,396 views

I think that Ashe's kit is a little too simplistic. While that is, in a way, part of her charm, I have some ideas to add a little depth to her kit without also making her harder to play.

First, instead of charging up a crit, her passive should very slowly increase her AA range while she's out of combat. This charge can only be used on champions, so it would not affect her AA range when attacking minions. When completely charged, this AA would deal extra damage if Frost Shot is not on. If Frost Shot is on, this AA would instead shred the targets armor until the target loses the Frost Shot slow. The armor shred would increase as Frost Shot is leveled, while the damage would scale with Ashe's level. This way, you have the option of using Ashe's passive to poke, or to increase your damage in an extended trade, and have to decide which you want by using or not using Frost Shot. If Ashe is stronger in extended trades then her opponent, she could even put points into Frost Shot early to press that advantage.

Second, Hawkshot's cooldown should be dependent on the distance it travels. Ashe should be able to use it more often to get vision in lane and check for nearby ganks, while still having a long cooldown when used over a long distance to keep her from having a free scrying orb all the time. Hawkshot's range should also increase as you level it. Nobody leveled Hawkshot when that still increased the gold it generated, and then that was made a flat 3 gold instead of 1/2/3/4/5.

Not only do both of these changes make Ashe more interesting to play, they also increase your incentive to level each spell. While nobody is going to max Hawkshot first for the increased range, the increased armor shred on Frost Shot could make it useful to level in some lanes, while a point or two in Hawkshot during the mid-game could help stay safe against pick comps. These changes also all play into her theme of archery and managing distance.

7 Comments

DragoonRuin2 votes

Ashe isn't scheduled for a re-work anytime soon, but I did see a Riot post somewhere on here last week stating that in a few months they are going to be Tuning up Ashe's kit to make it more "modern" feeling. Let me see if I can find the Riot post about it.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

I actually like ashes kit, every player should be forced to play 20 games of ashe before they can play any other champion solely because of her passive, HER PASSIVE FORCES PLAYERS to last hit, lest they not charge up her crit strike.

on average it takes around 3 seconds for friendly minions to get an enemy minion low enough so a player can last hit it, meaning she waits 3 seconds after her auto attack then it starts stacking until she last hits again instead of missing CS / pushing lanes without needing to

ArticFever1 votes

how about don't change her she plays her part very well

khorney1 votes

Agreed there is nothing wrong with her. But her weak counter part varus needs some love. There isn't anything great about varus he is a weaker version of ashe. Ashe ult to me is better her w Grant it it does a little less damage is more affective then varus q. Cause no one charges his q for maxe damage and not to mention his damage reduction through piercing . umm and ashe passive is a lot better then varus she essentially gets a free static shiv Almost. Then you can throw kogmaw in there he is better then both longer range and his w trumps varus little crappy blight procing not to mention his self a track speed buff. But yes ashe is fine how she his . varus is the one in need of some rework

Kobold2 votes

Off topic First: I will have to agree with his first point on varus needing some love as his Q has a longer CD and less damage than Caits Q while also having a charge time and him having zero mobility.

AShe's whole problem is her passive, its a weaker version of Caits overall. What Ashe needs is a passive that represents being an immobile Kite ADC, ANy form of MS or mobility would cause problems and land us back at the reason for mobility creep in the first place. Some people call her the Support ADC so some form of support like passive such as granting range to allies near her or having a mini Ohmwrecker passive could be really interesting.

khorney1 votes

I wish varus q was insta cast like tfs q :). I think ad scaling on ashes ult would make her better. Then again getting hourglass over ga is a good thing cause she benefits off the ap .

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