AP nasus discussion

Dremiist··3 votes·1,067 views

there's something I don't understand about it , if you build AP you clear wave with E right?

but his R require you to do stay inside a wave of minion of gain additional AD

if i build AP i gain massive % hp damage but since i'm AP i'll be wiping minion and won't be able to stack up AD through my ult.

R and E both scale AP but it's kinda awkward that they don't have much in common. no synergy

13 Comments

Leti the Yeti2 votes

maybe thats why ap nasus isnt a thing

Dremiist1 votes

{quoted}

maybe thats why ap nasus isnt a thing

probably

junglerboy162 votes

The big reason that AP Nasus isn't a thing is that his ult has a damage cap which means building more than about 200 AP makes your ult completely overkill on anyone with over 2000 HP (so anybody late game), where triforce Nasus can farm Q and then build straight tank while having carry level damage and insane pushing power.

Dremiist1 votes

{quoted}

The big reason that AP Nasus isn't a thing is that his ult has a damage cap which means building more than about 200 AP makes your ult completely overkill on anyone with over 2000 HP (so anybody late game), where triforce Nasus can farm Q and then build straight tank while having carry level damage and insane pushing power.

%hp damage, more ap the faster they die the better it is since you amass more AD faster than before 10% of their health per second it's great doesn't matter how much %hp you dealt even if it exceed 100% over X second because if they stack MR that's gonna be halfed and if they did stack MR you sell your item and go trinity force instead your ultimate last long enough after finishing someone you can go stick on your next target and another and another ... so even if you the %hp damage it doesn't matter it's like amumu W it's always on it's strong and shred anything.

when you're AP no matter how much AP you have, if you add E it's great poke and finishing move , this time you'll kill them with E how many time did they escape, this time they'll die for sure E is kinda weak if you don't put AP in it. also it provide armor pen so your Q stay the same strenght while you soak people health and gain 400AD imagine that's quite a lot! you can shred anything you actually deal massive damage more than AD/tank nasus could possibly do while remaining tanky, i believe 200AP with liandry is more than enough your other items should be focusing on tank item afterward. imo liandry>trinity force, they both give health one provide magic pen and %health damage which is great vs champion with over 3k health since you gain even more AD i just think you gotta go with the vibe it's more about counter strats, what will be more effective? see what i mean?

liandry+straight tank or trinity force+ straight tank or straight tank no damage item. if you see team fight ain't gonna work if split pushing is more effective go lich bane AP , push one shot tower to the victory , there's a lot of strats to do honestly.

Lord Dusteon1 votes

AP Nasus doesn't care about the AD stacking from ult; he cares about the max %hp damage (Thought, that has a cap on enemies _).

RazorTS2 votes

item 3151 item 3001 all ap you need on him, most of his dmg to champs comes from ap anyway even item 3151 is more than enough, ulti melts things 75% of max hp dmg and current 4% of current health for 18 seconds if you pair it with item 3110 (yep it works)

Thing is if you build full ap ppl will just kill you or walk away from E, you need to survive long enough for better overall dps

Dremiist1 votes

{quoted}

item 3151 item 3001 all ap you need on him, most of his dmg to champs comes from ap anyway even item 3151 is more than enough, ulti melts things 75% of max hp dmg and current 4% of current health for 18 seconds if you pair it with item 3110 (yep it works)

Thing is if you build full ap ppl will just kill you or walk away from E, you need to survive long enough for better overall dps

item 3001 item 3151 item 3068 item 3157 item 3020 item 3116 item 3110 item 3068 item 3151 item 3047 item 3102 item 3026 item 3143 item 3157 item 3001 item 3151 item 3102 item 3111 item 3020 item 3151 item 3116 item 3089 item 3157 item 3100 item 3174 item 3027 item 3151 item 3116 item 3089 item 3020

so many build i could do this all day!

McAllister1 votes

There is no AD Nasus. I main Nasus, and that is not a thing. Nasus builds one damage item and a pile of tank because Nasus with Last Whisper, 4 full-tank items and 600 Q stacks is blow-your-brains-out OP (the tradeoff being that the game is a lot like a 4v5 until laning ends, and even after that he's trying to keep farming).

So, you're offering the idea of AP Nasus up as a juxtaposition to Tank Nasus. What does AP Nasus lose? Durability and some Q stacks. I mean, AP Nasus has the same Q: the only difference is that if he's blowing up waves with E, he's not farming it as hard. What does AP Nasus gain? Waveclear and AoE teamfight damage from ult.

Is this worth it? Obviously, if I thought so, I'd consider playing Nasus AP, which I never do. Tank Nasus's relatively poor waveclear is regrettable, but late game, he is a tower-deleting monster, so his split-push is still frightening, plus the fact that he wins duels with horrifying reliability. I guess it might be nice to hurt people more by ulting, but I do my best work in teamfights by diving or split-pushing. If I wanted to deal AoE damage in a wombo comp, I wouldn't pick Nasus.

In conclusion, downvote this thread, because I don't need Riot figuring out that a game with Tank Nasus is just 45 minutes of the death-god playing in a sandbox with his mortal toys ;)

Dremiist1 votes

{quoted}

There is no AD Nasus. I main Nasus, and that is not a thing. Nasus builds one damage item and a pile of tank because Nasus with Last Whisper, 4 full-tank items and 600 Q stacks is blow-your-brains-out OP (the tradeoff being that the game is a lot like a 4v5 until laning ends, and even after that he's trying to keep farming).

So, you're offering the idea of AP Nasus up as a juxtaposition to Tank Nasus. What does AP Nasus lose? Durability and some Q stacks. I mean, AP Nasus has the same Q: the only difference is that if he's blowing up waves with E, he's not farming it as hard. What does AP Nasus gain? Waveclear and AoE teamfight damage from ult.

Is this worth it? Obviously, if I thought so, I'd consider playing Nasus AP, which I never do. Tank Nasus's relatively poor waveclear is regrettable, but late game, he is a tower-deleting monster, so his split-push is still frightening, plus the fact that he wins duels with horrifying reliability. I guess it might be nice to hurt people more by ulting, but I do my best work in teamfights by diving or split-pushing. If I wanted to deal AoE damage in a wombo comp, I wouldn't pick Nasus.

In conclusion, downvote this thread, because I don't need Riot figuring out that a game with Tank Nasus is just 45 minutes of the death-god playing in a sandbox with his mortal toys ;)

First this isn't an AP vs AD nasus thread. Second, if you want to praise tank nasus you're in the wrong thread.

AP tank nasus is more reliable, good wave clear and still tanky, you can go straight tank and build liandry as your only ap item, or zhonya since it provide invulnerability armor and ap, adding abyssal and sunfire cap boost E R sunfire cap, your ultimate,abyssal liandry for mpen boosting your magic damage even further while staying tanky there's so many thing to build it's situational , if i were to be the only melee or tank i wouldn't build straight ap and going straight ap i'd rather go mid actually going straight ap is too dangerous but tanky ap is more than alright.

if you see the situation allow you to go glass cannon AP , split push eat tower poke in team fight don't try to aggro all the damage. if you're top someone else on your team as to play the tank role if you're mid go all in.

anyways that's how i do it it's also why i'm platinum at the moment, you're just a disrespectful silver player most people with MC in their name like to run their mouth into others business with impunity. if you haven't try ap nasus shut your mouth

Registeel12341 votes

it's because Nasus is meant to be played AD. If you want to play AP, you waveclear with E and in teamfights press E, ult and zhonia's when needed. Lich bane Q for moar damage.

KidSpectre1 votes

I played AD Nasus on Dominion once. I didn't have time to be stacking Q into eternity so I picked me up a Hydra and went to town.

aaronconlin1 votes

AP Nasus is mainly an ARAM thing

More from Gameplay

More by Dremiist