You know how everyone used to always say "just build armor" when you complained about adc's and ad champions in general? Well where are those comments?
I'd guess dead because armor items are dead when compared to the damage that ad champions build and the armor pen that they provide.
Lets make armor great again.
Its All Skillzz5 votesJust watched a master yi with rage blade lethal tempo blade of ruined king and blood razer completely annhilate a fed rammus with thornmail. like no pen he shouldnt be allowed to fucking rekt one of his greatest counters like that.
GigglesO1 votesI mean "biggest counter" just means right click him anyways right?
ShaolinToilet3 votesYi has a ton of true damage and going off his build had a lot of magic on hit. Rammus is only a counter mid game and in team fights. I'm also guessing rammus had blue smite while Yi had red.
Asterfix5 votesRemember when it was just corki and kog who could shred armor?
GigglesO2 votesOh how I miss those days...
Its All Skillzz4 votesAs if armor matter anymore they add shit like conquerer onto shit like master yi wuju style. then add shit like rageblade that doubles that true damage an also provides onhit magic damage. whats point in fucking armor.
Azurify2 votesArmor is VERY strong on some champions and VERY weak on others. There's like no balance to that it seems. Which is why to combat the adc meta most people are going very pro assassin mid, jg, and top.
GigglesO4 votesThat is because armor means nothing anymore, you can just shred right through it. I have a feeling the champs you say armor is strong on the champs themselves are actually just op.
Azurify1 votesThat's literally the worst argument I've ever seen. No, armor doesn't mean nothing anymore. It's just that you're playing against a meta that is meant to be able to play around a team comp and not susceptible to beign 1v5'd by the enemy tank. You know where nautilus is in the rankings? almost nonexistent because he's considered so weak and yet one piece of armor grants enough to sustain him in lane early game and he's beefy in the late game with only 2-3 items.
You're complaining because the tank meta has passed and we finally reached a point where a tank can't 1v5. Get over it. Armor is as useful as it needs to be.
Judging by the champs you play, I have no idea why you're complaining about the tank meta/armor in the first place. You don't even play the champs that have good benefits of armor, you play abusive bruisers and immobile tanks.
If you're complaining about this then it's clear you have an issue with the late game but here's the deal, the enemy has had enough time to build against your armor and will play around you if you're playing these abusive bruisers and immobile tanks.
GigglesO1 votesLate game? You mean the 15 minute mark?
Azurify1 votesIf you're losing games by the 15 minute mark that's your fault. No reason to discuss why you're losing at all.
In fact to exemplify why you may be losing, your main champ is sitting on a 4.2 / 4.7 / 6.6 which means 9 times out of 10 you're probably not gonna carry or really be beneficial to your team.
GigglesO1 votesThats cause I build armor.
And late game is the 15 minute mark,
Midgame starts when jungler hits level 6. Don't you remember that lee sin buff? "Since lee sin has no early game hard cc"
So midgame is around the 7 minute mark, that means lategame is around 15, and anything past 25 is just super late.
Azurify1 votesA banner and a zhonyas aren't supposed to make you a damn tank on mord. You also only ever build one or the other in one game because you seem to not be doing much to get another a 3rd item in most 30 minute games.
Stop whining that you aren't a tank on mord because he ISN'T a tank.
Mid game does not start when a jungle hits level 6, you're a whiny player who can't stand the fact that they are playing bad in their own elo becuase they aren't playing their main right. Grow up, stop whining about shit that isn't supposed to work in the same functionality on a squishy to a tank champ.
There is a reason why an adc can't build a randuins and have the same tankiness as a braum: it's because they aren't designed to be that way. End of discussion. Thanks for finally understanding you are whining about shit that is your own fault.
GigglesO1 votesStop whining about shit that isn't supposed to work in the same functionality on a squishy to a tank champ.
Except that it worked in season 1,2,3,4,5,6,7...
So I'm going to keep complaining until the game is explicitly as fun and balanced as it used to be.
Azurify1 votes"I literally didn't read anything you had to say about how this is no longer the same as any of those seasons and instead am worried about how it doesn't work on my mord"
Bud. Bud.
Mord is literally trash rn and putting armor on him isn't going to make him a tank. You're whining cause your main isn't beefy when he's literally one of the worst tops right now.
Stop whining about armor when it isn't the armor, it's your champ and your gameplay overall.
darkdill2 votesI think it's less that we need to buff armor and more that we need to nerf true damage and the Conqueror Keystone.
ViciousSummoner2 votesJust slap, "Reduces damage taken from critical strikes by 15%," on every big armor item and poof problemo almost solved.
HP Crookshanks2 votesI agree armor is useless compared to MR and health.
d4rkshock2 votesThere aren't allot of adc's building lethality. I can name very few.
. just those 3. Lucian and mf use ablities and jhin doesn't have attack speed or crit.just flat damage scaling with ad, as, and crit.
GigglesO1 votesAnd somehow you can't even build armor into armor-penless adc's... something is wrong.
DestructoDave1 votesArmor is strong early. It eventually gets outscaled by damage. Way it always has been. I just played a game as Mao where I was unkillable for a large portion of the game. Just could not be killed. But, eventually, carries outscale that armor.
I bet you are whining about a 35 minute teamfight where whatever it was that killed you had finally scaled up to surpass your armor.
GigglesO1 votesGames get to the 35 minute mark?
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can someone provide the formula for damage reduction and armor pen? like does last wisper
apply 35% off the armor reduction, or does it take 35% of the armor value then redo the damage reduction value? basicaly asking to counter last wisper do u just stack more armor is is it pointless cause of diminishing values on damage reduction on armor?
Bobloser35552 votesThere is no diminishing value on armor. Last whisper basically removes 35% of the enemy bonus armor.
