So recently and in the past iv run into vayne Tops, 7/10 seem be really good at kitting and getting massive a lot towers pre 20 mins, Iv called for jungler help but most the time its a joke, any idea to champ that counters her? Or that can outright 100-0 her while maintaining the abilty to cs or not become constantly pushed under tower or be kitted super easy?
Ralanr2 votesAnyone with high burst should have a good chance. Off the top of my head I can think of 
. Maxing E and trading with Q from a distance could be helpful.
Critmaster Garen2 votesactually if youre stuck in a matchup where vayne counters you, consider lane swapping with your mid laner.
even if you end up in a match garen vs. malzahar, you will have a better chance just not getting killed and somewhat being able to farm than you would have against the vayne. because at least you can itemize against your opponent there.
and your mage or assassin might actually get fed on the vayne.
even between two bad matchups for you, lane swaps are worth it, if your other solo laner gets an easier lane.
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oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesif you get to pick know its a vayne top and you are able to counter pick then you should have no issues... the problem comes from picking 1st and then the enemy picks vayne top. in the past i have won and beaten vayne top with garen, malphite . i know pantheon counters quinn hard top so im sure it would be a good lane vs vayne as well. if you are picking 1st then they pick vayne its kind hard but go heavy armor build and ninja tabs and just play passive and farm what you can and ask for ganks and win the lane that way. the most important thing is not to die to her in lane and let her snowball..
items to consider in lane
also champs with gap closer/burst can always close the gap and blow her up..
like a malphite.. you are her bitch til lvl 6 and then boom you win if you dont lose to hard pre6
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07yjLFc1,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-10-08T20:04:18.589+0000)
if you get to pick know its a vayne top and you are able to counter pick then you should have no issues... the problem comes from picking 1st and then the enemy picks vayne top. in the past i have won and beaten vayne top with garen, malphite . i know pantheon counters quinn hard top so im sure it would be a good lane vs vayne as well. if you are picking 1st then they pick vayne its kind hard but go heavy armor build and ninja tabs and just play passive and farm what you can and ask for ganks and win the lane that way. the most important thing is not to die to her in lane and let her snowball..
items to consider in lane
also champs with gap closer/burst can always close the gap and blow her up..
like a malphite.. you are her bitch til lvl 6 and then boom you win if you dont lose to hard pre6
if the vayne lost to you on garen and malphite, she must have sucked dick.
vayne should destroy malphite before he can even rack up enough items to become a threat at lvl 6.
garen doesnt stand a chance at all. she can auto attack you through the entire lane phase for free and you dont have a single ability to answer that. even if you flash initiate on her she can just point and click disengage with e and resume poking.
in the past i rushed thornmail against adc top laners. but since riot decided to shit on the item, its not something you can rush in lane anymore.
in fact, you generally only beat adc top laners with assassins and fighters who can hard engage.
and imo vayne can even beat them if she buffers her condemn properly.
on some champions you can jsut beat her with constant jungle pressure. and since its vayne, should you lose your lane, youll probably lose the game.
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07yjLFc1,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-10-08T20:18:22.893+0000)
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i believe you. i still stand by my opinion that the vayne there sucked dick.
under no circumstances should it ever be possible for a garen to outtrade a vayne or to stick to her after you initiated on her.
you get into melee range, she presses e for a free disengage and keeps auto attacking you. she can bully you around from level 1 on, and you simply dont have any tools to answer that poke.
shes more mobile than you, she has more sustained damage, and she has her knockback.
the vayne must have let you farm for the first few levels there, so you could get enough damage items to be able to kill her with half a spin and your ult.
otherwise i cant explain how she lost.
or she constantly overextended and your jungler camped your lane.
malphite has a similar weak early game. he should get destroyed the first few levels before he even starts to scale and become a threat to her.
KVbqbFsC8e1 votesYou win by not dying in the laning phase.
Swiftstrike41 votesI remember when I was in silver top 
was still a thing. Even in some normals that I play I see it from silver or bronze players. By the time you get to Gold people stop doing it and/or your jungler recognizes that it is a weak top laner and rotates frequently to kill them.
Vayne has a shitty early game she really just out ranges you and that's pretty much her only advantage top.
Whenever there is a top vayne you tell your jungler "hey I am going need you to come top early to shut down this vayne."
Once you kill her about 3 times she won't be able to stay in lane. I play 
top so once she died a few times I would be ok solo with her.
The burden is on the jungler and you need to request their help. If they are a good jungler (even a mediocre one) they will recognize that Vayne is very gankable and has really weak base stats.
Just make sure whenever this occurs you simply get the junglers help. If you are on your own you probably need to play a range or hyper mobile champion that can bully early.
I can't believe people still do this, it is pretty ineffective.
Requiemsfire1 votesVayne's just dumb design honestly, Ranged champions already kite well enough with attack move and orb walking, so if a champion having the ability to roll every 2 seconds, turn invisible and push you away with a basic ability isn't enough then they just build 
to slow you and yeah.
To top it all off they recently buffed Vayne's AD ratio on her Q and now both the base damage and bonus damage crit together giving her a much stronger early to mid, making her better at harassing melee champions with her low cost Q.
