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[Item] Noxian Standard

JackYAqua·9/2/2014, 2:28:09 PM·6 votes·1,775 views

Noxian Standard (2600 Gold) item 3134 item 1036
+40 Attack Damage
+10% Cooldown Reduction
UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration
UNIQUE Passive: When dealing physical damage, deals 40% of the mitigated damage as bonus magic damage instead.

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An alternative to the regular Armor Penetration. If you, let's say, have 200 Attack Damage, and the targets has 100 Armor, you deal 100 physical damage on-hit. With this item, you would deal 40 bonus (raw) magic damage on-hit as well. The 40 would be reduced by at least 23% again, because of MR, but it's good against enemies with very high Armor.

Opinions? :D

9 Comments

The Hexmage9/2/2014, 4:48:39 PM2 votes

Too OP

dudemeister9/2/2014, 4:18:11 PM1 votes

Creative idea dealing mitigated dmg back as magic dmg. However, with this item wouldn't you want your attacks to be mitigated so that you get more of that dmg back as magic dmg? So in that case you wouldn't want any armor pen at all, which doesn't sound right for an ADC. Would that trade off be worth it and deal more dmg? Who would you see building this?

YouLostMe9/2/2014, 8:28:06 PM1 votes

I don't think this is a great idea, because it means you can build AD (encouraging the enemy to build armor) and then ignore the armor that you just encouraged them to build. I don't think it would be rewarding to play against a character using this.

Logicknot9/2/2014, 11:27:04 PM1 votes

I like it .

It fills a role for champions like Talon who wouldn't want something like item 3153 to add some shred for dealing with tanks.

But if it is going to fill that role it needs to cost something similar to item 3153 and you need to discourage people from stacking it with item 3153 . I say make the shread damage Unique between item 3153 and it.

Also change it to 60% shread but only on bonus armor not base armor. That way it isn't a fill all item for dealing with everyone's armor. We don't want to see it in everyone's builds because it is the latest and greatest item.

If it is going to take the spot of item 3153 it needs to have an active use. I feel like an assassin champion relying on burst damage to win is going to want a way to keep moving more then a way to slow and chase down someone. So maybe give it a quicksilver sash ability allowing them to remove debuffs and a small move speed boost for champions that melee.

At last I would change the name to something like Bonesplitting Dagger as it is more of a staby thing not a flag.

Voidzilla9/3/2014, 2:05:30 AM1 votes

This sounds like a really neat concept. I would suggest upping the cost of it a little though. The item 1036 should probably be replaced with a more advanced item, to make such an affect more costly to build to (of course adjust the stats accordingly). But as said, really like that concept in general, and even if on an item this was OP, perhaps it could be tied to a new Champion's ability.

Dexor9/3/2014, 11:26:09 AM1 votes

If you hate armor so much, just play Cleaver + Yomuus + Whisper on Urgot. Armor is no longer a thing. Alsoget manamunue because its manamune.