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God damn Monte stop shitting all over C9

Reynard the ƒox··34 votes·3,416 views

I really like Monte but man he's gonna eat his words this game. If Monte really thinks C9 only has one strat up their sleeve he's got another think coming.

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TurquoiseYoshi31 votes

Honestly, he should just shut the hell up after his precious KT team lost to Origen.

Reynard the ƒox15 votes

Honestly he should just move to NA so he can cast the new strongest region in the world and go back to being right all the time :P

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Well no doubt he favours Korean teams and obviously doesn't like NA but to be fair he was right with his predictions of SKT winning in S3 and Samsung White in S4.

Smart Kitty11 votes

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Well no doubt he favours Korean teams and obviously doesn't like NA but to be fair he was right with his predictions of SKT winning in S3 and Samsung White in S4.

SSW was pretty obvious though. SKT's only real competition was NBJ and maybe OMG.

The Bíg Ticket2 votes

Honestly it wasn't that obvious, it is easy to say it now 1 year later but back then the opinions were actually extremely split between Blue and White. Also SkT weren't really expected to win in season 3, the hype came kinda late, they even had to go through groupstages unlike Najin.

Smart Kitty2 votes

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Honestly it wasn't that obvious, it is easy to say it now 1 year later but back then the opinions were actually extremely split between Blue and White. Also SkT weren't really expected to win in season 3, the hype came kinda late, they even had to go through groupstages unlike Najin.

I'll give you SKT not really being expected until late, but I'm pretty sure about 85% of the people watching worlds S4 were sure SSW were going to win, maybe they didn't think it would be that dominant but that's it.The only other team people thought might win was blue and I saw a very very small amount of people say SHRC. Most kept saying white was the better team, but blue was just specifically good against white, so it harbored some doubt.

Earl Eulrich2 votes

well, for S4 SSW had been really far ahead of everyone else...that really was a given. For S3 i still think OMG should have taken it, they really played an unfortunate series vs RC. Also RC just underperformed brutally in the finals, playing a lot more passive then they used to do.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

while i certainly don´t like monte - he´s supposed to state his opinion/prediction...and if it turns out things are otherwise that just happens. It´s a good thing this year worlds is really unpredictable as the underdog-teams really stepped up (OG, C9) and a lot of the favourites are inconsistent ( IG, AHQ, Fnatic) or just brutally underperforming (LGD). If I look at my pick´em it´s just mostly all wrong by now...so why would i hate on the guy to not knowing much better? The month of silence before worlds + a patch with major gameplay changes right before worlds just made predicting things an unreal achievment. I´m also still afraid C9 might get exploited once teams adapt to siege being a primary strategy of the NA teams so far (Koo already showed some of the weaknesses of such a comp really well), like I´m afraid that OG will lose their sort of magic where they are just playing out of their minds on all positions during the break.

It´s the privilege of the fan to hope that the underdogs continue to surprise and step up their game even farther, but if I had to make a professional statement on that desc I´d probably also be very cautious with that.

Chespin20131 votes

I really want TSM to beat KT just too see the salt coming from Monte it would be so damn funny to watch

aítch1 votes

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Risurin13 votes

as a C9 fan since their debut, i think monte is just going with the logical prediction backed with stats from regular season play. nothing wrong with that. Cloud9 is just showing up how good they actually can be and how much practice they got in korea :), he might switch his prediction about them next week.

stuartk114 votes

In all fairness, he was kinda right when he said that they only had 1 strategy. They probably haven't shown any other strats because they haven't had to, and will practice something new this week, but he was still correct saying that they rely on the Azir/Tristana fast-push strategy. It works well, but they might have trouble against some of the eastern teams that like to make bigger plays in the early game.

On an unrelated note, what the hell happened with LGD? Does anyone know why they performed so poorly?

Earl Eulrich1 votes

On an unrelated note, what the hell happened with LGD? Does anyone know why they performed so poorly?

apparently the pressure of being favourites had been too much for them - and the loss in their first game vs OG just put them on tilt (in the game vs OG they played a little nervous, but fairly well...the two games afterwards they just did fall apart more and more).

Axis the Dragon1 votes

Well, that, plus the fact that they literally have no coach. FireFox is a good analyst, but not an actual player, so he doesn't know the intricacies of most of the game's deeper facets (including pick&ban phase). When it comes to overall coaching, that's Acorn's job (their toplaner)

Angry Monster1 votes

In all fairness, he was kinda right when he said that they only had 1 strategy. They probably haven't shown any other strats because they haven't had to,

this does not make him right. Hell techically they have showed 2 strats vieg and azir. They are similar but they have different goals. No one is going to call vieg a push champ. We all know that C9 bot lane champ pool is pretty deep. Some strats are just straight banned and the fact monte wants C9 to show more at this point is a joke; show all so people can get you in Bo5.

So monte is not right he is boardline blind at this point. The fact he holding out on EDG and SKT when they are is the weakest group for finals is a mistake. I think all the 3rd seeds have shown that at this point strong opposition is allowing for growth.

I love SKT but i am afraid that they and EDG are going to get reality checked in Bo5. When this happens monte is going to go into shock.

Chespin20131 votes

Their old coach left because he didn't get payed enough as much as he wanted too so they fired him. This is the coach that got royal club to the worlds finals 2 times in a row and how their are rumors that the new coach is the coach that was part of samsung ozone back than the samsung teams weren't considered that strong and didn't even make it out of groups if I recall back in s3 not 100% sure on that.

Risurin1 votes

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In all fairness, he was kinda right when he said that they only had 1 strategy. They probably haven't shown any other strats because they haven't had to, and will practice something new this week, but he was still correct saying that they rely on the Azir/Tristana fast-push strategy. It works well, but they might have trouble against some of the eastern teams that like to make bigger plays in the early game.

On an unrelated note, what the hell happened with LGD? Does anyone know why they performed so poorly?

if they can hide some things for the quarters thats overall just better for them. Also dont forget, their first game they had veigar and not azir, and they had a more teamfight comp with a lot of damage and CC.

LGD is playing poorly because of conflict in the team and the coach leaving a bit before world. Their draft and team synergy have shown exactly this. IMP is still a really good player, but 1 good ADC cant do everything. At this point they are basically out too with their 0-3 score.

SuperJediNinja10 votes

Monte hates NA

Secret Baller12 votes

Monte is a dick rider. Easy to predict the favored teams to win. His blatant disrespect for NA teams is garbage. How can you call ANY team playing at worlds a 'bad team'? Notice they pull him from the analyst desk every time he is wrong? Put that dbag back on there so we can watch him stuff his foot down his gullet!

Insane Pyromanic1 votes

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Monte is a dick rider. Easy to predict the favored teams to win. His blatant disrespect for NA teams is garbage. How can you call ANY team playing at worlds a 'bad team'? Notice they pull him from the analyst desk every time he is wrong? Put that dbag back on there so we can watch him stuff his foot down his gullet!

they didn't pull him after the KT game where they lost to origen. Js.

Dark Blade4 votes

Monty's vote isn't worth sh*t, he has no sense in predicting how games will go, why is he eve sitting on the analyst desk?

Valenten3 votes

To be fair if you are going off of previous history C9 wasnt doing well throughout the regular season and thats really all the info he has to go off of. I dont understand how he cant consider them at least a force to worry about since they made it through the gauntlet then the way they have been playing in worlds so far. Ive always supported C9 and hope they keep on getting better.

Zhugan1 votes

Since the tie breaker against Team 8, C9 has gone 10-5 (including Worlds). If you exclude the 2 "WTF are you doing with Amumu?" games, they are 10-3.

That isn't a team to be taken lightly. Especially not when they had the fortitude mentally to make two reverse sweeps. Looking at C9 as they have been, not as they were for most of a split several months ago would give people a much more accurate idea of what to anticipate from them as a team.

LinoWidge1 votes

correction they've gone 12-5. 9-5 in the gauntlet & 3-0 at worlds

Zhugan1 votes

I included the tiebreaker win because it was the start of Hai's plan for World Domination. A plan that seems to be (for the moment) coming to fruition...

Nidalee SO NYAAA3 votes

Monte and Thooorin are both really bias to the Korea teams for the most part

Earl Eulrich2 votes

it´s a legitimate analysis though - so far C9 only played siege-comps and always made the same moves early on. That doesn´t mean they also have other things prepared, but it does mean if they draft like this again they can be exploited on this tactic. So far no team really has challenged their draft though, all fell for it and got outdrafted. That really doesn´t take away much from C9, as drafting is an important phase of the game and already shows a lot about the teams understanding of the game. But it still leads to the question if they can beat an opponent that doesn´t get outdrafted (like e.g. i would be really surprised if they´d take games from the Korean tems that very rarly do make mistakes like that in their drafts)...still i´m glad to see them doing well and so far they absolutly deserve to be #1 in that group, as all other teams are somewhat underperforming.

Jason the other1 votes

Agreed C9 only had 1 weird champion pick and we cant put it past them to have more up there sleeve

FluxBound1 votes

Hey, at least he's not being a Jatt. One minute saying "Oh, Balls plays so much but can't get out of D2" but then once C9 is 2-0, he's all "Oh, Balls is D2, but he's played so much, so I'm rooting for him."

Kazellion1 votes

If he didn't think you could take his opinion to the bank as fact and everyone else is wrong monte wouldn't be such a giant douche with his hate of the US.

Idenkiteki1 votes

Not as bad as Yomatocannon.

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