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DarkSoul1994··8 votes·1,260 views

Is this a new wildcard region or something? How come they get 3 seeds?

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III BAKURYU III 4 votes

When the wildcard region still gets further than NA does over and over again. Yes, maybe not this year as FNC and MFS suck and G2 are in TSM's group from last year but let's not forget that EU actually has a World Championship under their belt, multiple semi-finals and last year H2K actually got further and beat(ANX - you know the team that 2-0 CLG), oppose to NA who more times than not can't even make it past groups.

BigBellBrute1 votes

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When the wildcard region still gets further than NA does over and over again. Yes, maybe not this year as FNC and MFS suck and G2 are in TSM's group from last year but let's not forget that EU actually has a World Championship under their belt, multiple semi-finals and last year H2K actually got further and beat(ANX - you know the team that 2-0 CLG), oppose to NA who more times than not can't even make it past groups.

You mean that same CLG that 2-0 G2? The only reason H2k got anywhere is they got a group even easier than TSM's this year. And we all know what happened at Rift Rivals. Our number 10 team went 4-2.

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

I did say that EU sucks " this year/ mainly for the past 2 years or so) no doubt about that !
What about NA's Championships ? ............ Semi-Finals ....... ever ? .............. NA are where Eu were so many years ago, let's see if NA can actually do something on the International stage, cause if LPL( In which I don't see it happening) wins Worlds, every region EU, LMS, LCK and LPL would have won Worlds with NA being left out.

Most sports in the US are defined by this right " Great player(region) X is but no rings"

woodvsmurph1 votes

semi-finals season 1 and lost out because of one person being dc'd for like 15 min trying to fix an issue - there were no pauses then; if they had modern pauses and stuff, they might well have won the championship - one more reason why EU claiming season 1 championship means basically nothing.

Season 3 - could have easily made finals if not vs samsung duo in quarterfinals; tsm went even vs rng in groups - rng made finals. Also tsm and c9 looked better vs samsung than rng did.

Last year? Eu did worse than na barring the "free" group that overrated h2k got. If they had any other group, they wouldn't have even made quarterfinals.

And I have places to be - or I would continue discussing how overrated eu is - not that I think na is better.

FableBlaze2 votes

Oh ffs, results matter. And up until this year EU has been pretty much always better than NA. These "if not vs samsung duo" etc are just excuses. Something along the lines of GMB cheese and tough group of G2. But these would be the same excuses. Fact of the matter is that NA was bad last year and EU is bad this year.

DarkRooster2 votes

Now you are just making excuses yourself because whatever happens EU will drop out the same as everyone else not have achieved anything better than NA, only difference is how easy are the groups and quarter finals then of course that NA or EU team usually makes it further to later be obviously crushed.

I remember previous years where EU didn't made pass group stages and being really bad, i remember NA not making pass and being really bad, its all always same thing. No matter who has won the lottery of having easier groups NA or EU they are bound to be utterly crushed against koreans at some point. Even if one year lottery will fluke someone in the finals they are never going to win it. So EU > NA or NA > EU fuck this shit, both are losers by our own logic.

FableBlaze1 votes

Not making excuses. This is the weakest year for EU. It's possible we will not even win a game in groups. As for Koreans, everyone knows they will crush everyone else, nothing interesting there.

BigBellBrute2 votes

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Oh ffs, results matter. And up until this year EU has been pretty much always better than NA. These "if not vs samsung duo" etc are just excuses. Something along the lines of GMB cheese and tough group of G2. But these would be the same excuses. Fact of the matter is that NA was bad last year and EU is bad this year.

Bullshit. They weren't better last year. Not even close NA was clearly better last year by any stretch of any imagination.
NA 4-0 vs EU last year. 9-9 in groups vs EU's 6-12.
Much better record in groups. The only EU team that did shit only did so because they didn't have a single NA or Korean team in their group and got a draw even better than TSM's this year.
And we all saw rift rivals where our 10th place team went 4-2 vs your 3, 1, and 4. Face it. EU has flat out sucked ever since Fnatic lost Huni and reignover and Origen collapsed.

Osbeorn2 votes

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Bullshit. They weren't better last year. Not even close NA was clearly better last year by any stretch of any imagination.
NA 4-0 vs EU last year. 9-9 in groups vs EU's 6-12.
Much better record in groups. The only EU team that did shit only did so because they didn't have a single NA or Korean team in their group and got a draw even better than TSM's this year.
And we all saw rift rivals where our 10th place team went 4-2 vs your 3, 1, and 4. Face it. EU has flat out sucked ever since Fnatic lost Huni and reignover and Origen collapsed.

Historically Eu has still performed much better than NA, reaching semi 5 out of 6 worlds, while NA only did so in the first season. So it will be a long time until NA will ever reach the performance that EU has achieved. NA is better this year though, unless G2 performs to their capabilites.

About rift rivals though.. your 10th best team performed better than your 3rd best team as well.. I don't think rift rivals is much of an indication, after all korea lost it as well.

FableBlaze1 votes

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Bullshit. They weren't better last year. Not even close NA was clearly better last year by any stretch of any imagination.
NA 4-0 vs EU last year. 9-9 in groups vs EU's 6-12.
Much better record in groups. The only EU team that did shit only did so because they didn't have a single NA or Korean team in their group and got a draw even better than TSM's this year.
And we all saw rift rivals where our 10th place team went 4-2 vs your 3, 1, and 4. Face it. EU has flat out sucked ever since Fnatic lost Huni and reignover and Origen collapsed.

Rift rivals was this year! That is the reason why i said that NA has been clearly better this year. EU performed better last year in worlds, that is a fact. "Koreans in groups" is just an excuse for fanboys.

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

OG and FNC could have made Finals if it wasn't for those darn LCK teams Rox and SKT. H2K could have made Finals if it wasn't for Samsung Galaxy, all 3 teams made it to Finals. So, the whole TSM/C9 2014 argument means nothing too.

The whole X team in weak group is interesting mainly because if TSM was actually good back in 2016, they would have made it out and not a 50/50 communication problem team like RNG both in 2016 and 2014.

woodvsmurph2 votes

Not quite the same thing - they didn't show up vs lck teams as far as I recall whereas na teams did vs samsung when samsung won worlds AND they had proven they were the equal of the other half of the bracket whereas the same cannot be said for og or fnc in the season you speak of. So, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the two comparisons.

H2K's problem has been the same every year; they don't understand how to ADAPT in game - they've got a script, as some would put it, and when it's not followed, they don't know how to write a new one as a team. This is why they lose to other "good" teams, but beat weaker teams. Their mechanics aren't so much stronger than other good teams, and they don't know how to impose their will on such teams once they lose the tempo. This is why I never buy into the H2K hype - much as I admire Jankos as a player; his team just isn't good enough - which is really sad with how amazing of a lead he can hand them many games early on.

woodvsmurph1 votes

this is week 1; doesn't eu wait till week 2 and crush na's dreams?

hopefully not this year

FableBlaze1 votes

Honestly only Fnatic might be able to. G2 has a really tough group and G2 is... well G2. Misfits is pretty much still a rookie team (think C9 debut on worlds stage, but without the hype)

Maszii1 votes

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Honestly only Fnatic might be able to. G2 has a really tough group and G2 is... well G2. Misfits is pretty much still a rookie team (think C9 debut on worlds stage, but without the hype)

C9 debut was in Quarter finals where they got a bye and got outplayed by xPeke's LB.

III BAKURYU III 2 votes

Eu tends to play spoiler for NA when it counts most. IMT-FNC was honestly, a great game and while FNC did camp bot, FNC looked way too strong honestly against IMT. Would be funny if G2 makes it out of groups, as that really would be a smack in NA's face.

woodvsmurph1 votes

Fnc looked strong yes. But you must consider that MOST of the plays they made bot were answered with similar plays against them topside. Imt could have sent that pressure bot in answer and things would have been much messier and fnc bot wouldn't have looked nearly so strong. Imt bot has some improving to do - especially cody sun though. And while fnc got a great lead, they also: failed to execute collapses onto flame when they caught him out AND failed to decisively close out the game before imt could catch up. They LET it drag out to a 50/50 full build late game scenario - which is not what you want or expect out of a good team with the lead they had. Guaranteed lpl or lck team would have ended game off such a lead before their opponents could drag it out enough that the gold lead was nullified by item slots.

AleksaTeemo1 votes

Really shame soAZ missed smite on the baron and then rekkles flashed in for no reason..

Late For Tea4 votes

Honestly all this trash talk between EU and NA is so pointless, because the two regions don't have even resources. NA plays a lot more games during their split than EU, so they get more practice. NA teams have a lot more money, so they can build a better infrastructure around their teams.

Yes EU is shit. Yes it is Riot's fault for completely dumpstering the region with their "experiments". Yes NA is shit, because even with all these additional resources they still don't get anywhere.

DarkRooster1 votes

Yup. Both are shit and heavily depends on lottery on how far they will make it to quarter final, semi final, maybe one year finals, but they both have no chances of winning the worlds no matter how far up lottery got them.

DarkRitual1 votes

Both may be shit internationally, but NA > EU still.

Sucks being the worst premier region I imagine.

BigBellBrute2 votes

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Both may be shit internationally, but NA > EU still.

Sucks being the worst premier region I imagine.

LMS looks to be the worst premier region this time.
Flash Wolves are 0-2 having just lost to Misfits. Ahq did get the upset over Edward. but then got stomped by c-9. Good luck against SKT.
And Hong Kong Attitude didn't even win their play in group and got eliminated in stage 2 of play ins. At least EU got three in.

AleksaTeemo1 votes

NA LUL

Maszii3 votes

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Is this a new wildcard region or something? How come they get 3 seeds?

Cus we have a history of good League of Lego. Anyways Fnatic - IMT game could have been either way. MSF are bad yes but we knew that already. Shame Fnatic got caught by the Marines, lets see how IMT will do :). TSM - FW game was way too close aswell even though everybody here thought they were bad (including myself). C9 played pretty good, but vs a better team they maight have lost that with that bad draft. Tomorrow C9 needs to show up vs EDG.

If you boys want any hope on semi's btw (would be a near first apart from season 1) you better get TSM into the frist place or else they will get smashed by a Korean team 3-0 in quarters.

woodvsmurph1 votes

Pob calculated that play and baited Reckless - it was entirely planned based on twitch solo hunting for kills with stealth just before that in other lanes - you could tell that via wards in lanes spotting him alone when he exited stealth. And Pob had stuck as 5 very close to his team just before that - which all screams - calculated/bait. 200 iq plays.

Also, imt knows better what to expect from the marines, so they should do better than fnatic just because of that. I mean if they don't, then there's an issue, but if they do better it doesn't necessarily mean they are better - just that they had more info and prep time.

woodvsmurph3 votes

Why does NA get 3 seeds for that matter? It's not like they do anything at worlds most years either. The last time they looked top tier was when samsung won worlds - where 2 teams from NA could have easily made semi-finals if not finals if they were in opposite side of the bracket instead of vs samsung duo teams in the quarters.

AleksaTeemo1 votes

Except TSM got the easiest group and barely made it out.

AleksaTeemo2 votes

Shame EU didnt shittalk NA nearly as NA is now every year league has existed.

BigBellBrute1 votes

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Shame EU didnt shittalk NA nearly as NA is now every year league has existed.

EU does quite a bit of trash talking. Just look at this thread. They were 0-4 and they were still trash talking.

AleksaTeemo1 votes

Yeah,when c9 got first in groups back in season 3(they had KR in the group) they trash talked FNC and said how they will stomp them,yet FNC wins 2-1.Season 5 0/10 week,but no,NA still trash talked before that.Season 6,TSM is gonna rofl stomp RNG and then defeat SKT in the quaters while EU is not getting out of groups,but what happend?And EU does not trash talk,cause they know they arent as good as they were before.

LEBLANKKK TIME1 votes

LUL I called this weeks before worlds and am proving to be correct, but you know time for them EU baddies to make NA accounts and talk trash about NA because their region is literally worse than Vietnamese teams LOL, on a side note I am surprised that the wild card region's team FNC made it through play ins good job!

AleksaTeemo1 votes

You are what now?

Ailiekpai1 votes

Talking shit already after 2 days? That can't possibly come back to bite you in the ass.

VoidStaresBack1 votes

Oh man is this hilarious with the benefit of hindsight.

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