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You know what's sad about Worlds? (Opinion)

Chaosedge··7 votes·1,214 views

The fact that there are 130+ champions in League of Legends. And so far, only 20-30 champions have been played in Worlds. Like what the fuck is going on here? The only exciting match I have seen this year is with GAM picking Rengar and Zilean and doing super well in the early game. That was exciting as hell to see because it was new! I mean they still lost because Ardent Support and shit but it was still interesting to see an actual Assassin Jungler being played.

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SciFi Scrivener4 votes

93 Champions have been played at worlds 2017 so far: http://oracleselixir.com/statistics/champions/worlds-2017-champion-statistics/

Champion - Games Played: Tristana 63 Sejuani 56 Lulu 55 Janna 54 Cho'gath 53 Gragas 50 Xayah 42 Syndra 40 Jarvan IV 39 Maokai 39 Kog'Maw 34 Rakan 30 Ryze 28 Shen 28 Corki 26 Varus 26 Orianna 22 Twitch 20 Rek'Sai 19 Galio 17 Taliyah 17 Galio 15 Taric 15 Cassiopeia 14 Alistar 13 Gnar 13 Karma 11 Rumble 11 Braum 10 Ezreal 10 Caitlyn 9 Jarvan IV 9 LeBlanc 9 Trundle 9 Jayce 8 Jayce 8 Lee Sin 7 Lucian 7 Morgana 6 Camille 5 Elise 5 Kalista 5 Kassadin 5 Nidalee 5 Sivir 5 Thresh 5 Fizz 4 Kayn 4 Kha'zix 4 Malzahar 4 Renekton 4 Soraka 4 Vayne 4 Ashe 3 Aurelion Sol 3 Blitzcrank 3 Graves 3 Jax 3 Karma 3 Nautilus 3 Vladimir 3 Ekko 2 Fiora 2 Ivern 2 Maokai 2 Olaf 2 Singed 2 Urgot 2 Yasuo 2 Zac 2 Anivia 1 Cho'gath 1 Draven 1 Gragas 1 Jax 1 Jhin 1 Jinx 1 Kennen 1 Leona 1 Lissandra 1 Malzahar 1 Mordekaiser 1 Nami 1 Nasus 1 Nocturne 1 Nunu 1 Rengar 1 Sejuani 1 Sona 1 Tahm Kench 1 Trundle 1 Yasuo 1 Zilean 1

FableBlaze1 votes

Cho'gath is listed twice. Cho was apparently played in jungle for one game?

Apost3 votes

It's the world championship. People need to play meta in order to get an advantage. Sure it might be fun for us to see random champions, but for these guys this is their job. You wouldn't want you being the reason your team got disqualified, because you decided to pick a weaker pick.

Chaosedge1 votes

Yeah I guess. Just wish I wasn't like that. Wishful thinking I suppose...

SEKAI1 votes

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It's the world championship. People need to play meta in order to get an advantage. Sure it might be fun for us to see random champions, but for these guys this is their job. You wouldn't want you being the reason your team got disqualified, because you decided to pick a weaker pick.

The problem is that the game is so badly balanced there is only 1 meta, and that there is an extreme amount of power disparity between the meta picks and the less-so.

Fighting games can manage most of their rosters being played in tournaments even in the highest level of the said tournaments where even niche picks are still viable (by that I mean able to actually win the grand final, such as the case of Akuma in SF5's Evo2017) if you try hard enough; or looking at our cousin Dota2's tournaments where again, most of the roster has been picked along with far more diverse library of tournament strategies even at the highest level of the tournaments; League has no excuses for such a small pool of tournament-viable champs and strategies where it starts at ~50% even at the entry and the number becomes shockingly small as soon as you drift up the tournament ladder.

If Riot has expressively said that they "don't want the games to be decided at pick phase", then how is it gonna help if there is the that they're deliberately keeping up this thing called THE Meta that literally means it's the most powerful set of picks and composition there will ever be and you will never beat it using other strategies assuming equal skill and in at least reasonably capable competitive environment? Counter-intuitive and contradiction much?

ChompyWulf1 votes

With 130 champions and dozens of items, there is basically no numerical way for Riot to reasonably have all champions at the same power level for pro play.

The pros also decide the meta, not Riot. A lot of champs are commonly used for specific reasons that make sense, and teams often prefer to rely on best team synergy than pure skill and counter matchups. There is little to no way for Riot to change that barring rule changes or constant massive champion changes.

That said, some things do need altering, but not so bad as people make it out to be.

Ale non è male3 votes

20-30 champions? Did you actually see quarterfinals? A lot of pocket/cheese picks were pulled off effectively Some champions were a problem, that's for sure, but there has been rarely so much variety in champions pick at this point in knockout stage

Angrychickén3 votes

This is actually one of the most diverse worlds so far.

Apart from season one where everything goes meta.

Maszii2 votes

Has been over 60 picks right now. But yes a lot is the same, hence why there is a meta.

azsympylenkur2 votes

If you want really exciting matches watch msf vs skt. There were some crazy picks and games that you should find just as entertaining as GAM's

lightdragoon881 votes

Yeah well with championship on the line they are going to play the strongest champs/items.

It only when matches have no bearing on their standing/placements that they gladly play random champs for the fans. Like this game for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDQQ2ZX_2RY

Chaosedge1 votes

I watched up to the pick phase of this video, and I was already excited. This is what I'm talking about. I want to see more stuff like this to really amp up the match and have it be fun to watch.

lightdragoon881 votes

That is why they need to do more fun matches, like maybe have the last game of the day be them just playing with no title or rank on the line. That way they could do fun stuff.

Infernape1 votes

Or just make All Star a fun tournament again rather than another worlds-esque event.

Primaquarius1 votes

Every champion is strong while ahead, are you sure they just dont want to just play the easy-to-snowball champs?

Hemanth1 votes

This new pick ban made way for more champs to get in

PePsiLemoNN1 votes

Ikr. They should all just troll and pick Illaoi cause who even cares about WORLDS AKA THE BIGGEST LEAGUE TOURNAMENT.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

This happens every year, first couple rounds have the most variety then it goes downhill.

Dr Dog1 votes

at least the misfits were more interesting, karma mid, ivern jg, blitzcrank too bad they lost

rtbf361847541 votes

It's understandable, because it is a championship, so they want to pick the best champs, that has the highest win chance. What I hate much more, that when you play League, you only face these 20-30 champs every time. People see pros playing those, and they dont pick anything else, because they want to play like they saw the pro players... Im instantly flamed if I pick a "no-meta" champ, and called a troll ON BLIND PICK lol

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