500+ TROLLED GAMES IN THE LAST YEAR - BIGGEST TROLL IN LEAGUE OF LEGENDS...

Chaosedge·Aug 4, 2017·93 votes·6,709 views

Posting this on behalf of RossBoomsocks, and why the current report system is completely flawed and needs to be fixed.

67 Comments

Giggling GrannyAug 4, 201751 votes

Dude expect the follwing

Deep Terror Nami comes here and say "Riot system work perfectly but they cant just ban people for int feeding because its hard to decect"

Players that eat what ever riot throws at them "What you want riot to ban people for bad scores what about bronze man?"

Because according to riot and this community here going 0-15-0 with mobi boots as the only item its a normal score of a bad game!

TwitchInMyPantsAug 5, 20172 votes

Or, you know, if a player is mass reported you have a team of people that watch 1-3 replays sped up so they can address claims that aren't immediately proven by score. They have a notes section, I guarantee some people wrote "Stealing jungle camps, Spitting me into enemies" and they're actively ignoring it to automate the process because it's apparently too demanding to watch a replay when they spent years building the replay system to be as quick to use and optimized as possible. shakes head

Deep Terror NamiAug 6, 20175 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/86aaeba37af715707d4e6af4d6bb3c35.png

Great strawman, you really got him.

KVbqbFsC8eAug 4, 201720 votes

"just a bad game"

ThefrostyvikingAug 4, 201719 votes

500 games......how in all the shroom fields of hell did riot not notice this?

And why the hell didn't they get permabanned?

I can literally get myself perma banned in less than 5 sentences in a normal.

But some Korean smurfs can troll the the hell outa people and force hundreds of losses over the span of 2 YEARS and they get a two weeks suspension?

.....What's going on here?

CowseedAug 4, 201717 votes

Dude it's fiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnneeee. They didn't say ggez so it's not like they're toxic or anything lolz!!1!!

SchàdenfreudeAug 5, 20174 votes

Some salty scrub downvoted this believing that Riot's system works perfectly fine and believes that toxitity is worse than trolling or inting.

Have your upvote back.

ThefrostyvikingAug 5, 20172 votes

.....I would laugh but the current truth is that you are right, which, is really, really sad ;_;

RealČernochHoursAug 5, 20171 votes

Sad how you can ruin games for everyone and get away scoff-free most of the time while they can't do shit but toxicity, for which the mute button exists, is still considered worse than this shit.

Give us Overwatch like in CS:GO where you watch sped up replays of suspected players.

TwitchInMyPantsAug 5, 20176 votes

200 games and their account got a 14 day ban. Riot honestly deserves to be reminded about this black eye often. People quit over trolling and tons of people trust the banning system to make the community cleaner. We love League of Legends, which is why we want it to be a balanced and fair environment and will complain when we feel it's off. Ignoring something that's this fundamental hurts player trust.

OriyokiAug 5, 20171 votes

Because Korean server. Not hosted by Riot and shit but game itself is not controlled by Riot (as far as I know) and nobody cares.

CryptocurrencyAug 6, 20172 votes

He probaly doesn't talk at all in chat.

KartagiaOct 5, 20171 votes

Riot Games did not notice this as RIot games does not do anything to stop this. Whole reporting system is automated, and there is no human doing reviewing, as it would cost RIot money. Riot games has given total control of official Riot games feedback and communication forums to volunteers.

Riot games are not doing their part of contract you agree when you agree on Summoner's code. ANd RIot Gmaes does nto give a shit. They are hypocrite liars.

NecrozardAug 4, 201715 votes

"There's a flaw in Riot's banning system"

Very likely possible

Stormshadow3503Aug 5, 20171 votes

maybe possibly kind of tough to tell who knows for certain? like idk

The PlaneswalkerAug 4, 20178 votes

I try to have faith in Riot's choices with the bans but players like this are evidence that maybe most of it is automated and not human reviewed. At least a few people out of the hundreds they've trolled had to have described the "tahm kench anivia, smiting my jg" thing in the report text box, right?

AetherArisingAug 4, 20176 votes

This. One of my friends from way back when i was in 4th grade got me into LoL a month or so ago, but when i finally decided to install it and give it a shot, she got rekt by league's automated system and quit. The problem being that they, in 4 games out of 100 or so, got tilted, and so got punished for flaming twice, resulting in a 2 0 g a m e c h a t r e s t r i c t i o n. I'd go into _detail _ but it'd probably be airing dirty laundry, so i wont drop names or try to defend anything.

The problem i'm gonna say here is: People can get away with pretty much anything they please as long as they manipulate the system to seem innocent, but people who haven't really done much to deserve heavy punishment DO. I've caught a person or 2 since i joined via reporting, but rarely is it ever a person who REALLY needed to be. That or the system takes ages to figure out if a person's been reported before etc.

If several-time offenders were actually looked at by staff, it'd be reasonable, but usually its just doled out by some bot that checks for thresholds and keywords

3TWarriorAug 5, 20171 votes

heck, they could do it all FOR FREE by creating a community based system of volunteers to look at outstanding cases and look at plea cases from automated bans

but so far, we don't even know how many people review the videos

AninLegions777Aug 5, 20171 votes

We already had something like that. It was called the tribunal.

RealČernochHoursAug 5, 20171 votes

Make it like Overwatch in CS:GO, everytime you judge a case you get IP/Champion Shard or something else.

3TWarriorAug 10, 20171 votes

it would certainly provide incentive, though i'm not sure how it would work into their business model

KartagiaOct 5, 20171 votes

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Make it like Overwatch in CS:GO, everytime you judge a case you get IP/Champion Shard or something else.

They had such system, but trolls started to abuse it, and Riot did not have balls to ban every single Tribunal account, which did not follow summoner's code in punishments. This is main problem of Riot: They do not have balls to stop real troublemakers, as every time they do, the servers get 2 weeks of constant DDoS and majority of accounts used for marketing are hacked or smurf accounts of these rules violators.

Just like in EVE Online Goon Swarm is totally immune to any EULA violations.

TwitchInMyPantsAug 5, 20173 votes

It took 200 reports for the player to get 14 day banned. Do you imagine only one or two people wrote "Stealing my camps, spitting me into enemies"? Most people I know write the notes when they know just "Griefing" isn't detailed enough. If you're going out of your way to do a report even if you wanna play the next game you want to make your case against that player clear.

Their process is so dependant on automation they ignored something like 10-100 people saying "He's spitting me into enemies constantly" or "He won't stop taking my camps". Yet they ban people for playing Singed/Nunu support with Smite just cus adc has to 1v2 for a minute or so. Off-meta is more bannable than literally trying to sink your team because they refuse to use the replay system to check for this kind of behavior until there's literally hundreds of reports, how many players uninstalled League because they wanted to give a fair try at climbing when they know they suck but then they have to deal with trolls like this that won't be banned?

Nickfer2510Aug 5, 20177 votes

Just a small correction. It actually took a couple YouTubers to make videos highlighting that troll and for Reddit posts of those videos to make Reddit's front page in order to get that troll a temporary ban.

CowseedAug 4, 20178 votes

Dude they weren't flaming in chat so um... they aren't toxic or anything. They don't make anyone feel bad so that's a pass you know! :D

Just some bad games. He had a bad day his dog died give him some slack

edit:

/kappa

LegendmakerGXAug 5, 20178 votes

Yo I want to see how much people got ban for verbal abusing this intentional feeder since I bet he was able to get over 30 people ban for being toxic to him.

OriyokiAug 5, 20171 votes

Korean server. You can flame and troll all you want, no punishment.

LOSINGISMYPRIDEAug 4, 20175 votes

Better bann ppl who want to win .

ThefrostyvikingAug 4, 20172 votes

What do you mean?

LOSINGISMYPRIDEAug 4, 20174 votes

about singed420 who got bann for playing support singed with smite but still winning game .

EvanThomasAug 4, 20175 votes

This has nothing to do with that.

LOSINGISMYPRIDEAug 5, 20172 votes

Dude riot took time to bann someone who tried to win , while there are ppl who try to make their team lose with over 400 games . I dont get your wht this has nothing to do with that

NarasimhaAug 5, 20174 votes

Has to do with reports. People felt a lot worse about playing with singed420 than with these guys. So they reported more. So it would seem, anyway.

LOSINGISMYPRIDEAug 5, 20171 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn] So you feel worst losing than winning ? Should we ask those korean player wht they felt ? Want to go on korean league subreddit ?

NarasimhaAug 5, 20172 votes

Pass, I've seen the korean Overwatch subreddit. I'm guessing it's the same thing.

3TWarriorAug 5, 20172 votes

actually, they provided the numbers but I'd have to look it up

it was substantial, but a minority percentage and the majority of the reports were from the marksman

it's the same problem that got the nunu player a 14 day ban without prior punishment

ThefrostyvikingAug 5, 20173 votes

No, the issue is that the Nunu guy and the singed guy before him both instalock their picks while rarely ever explaining anything to the people in the lobby which is a typical troll behavior.

The exception with the Nunu guy is that he did explain it sometimes unlike the singed, but the reason people hate him anyway is because his usual answer to anyone questioning is "dumbass look my history,it's good".

Then he calls whoever has to lane bot alone an idiot for losing, and it happened a lot while i was watching too.

Riot undid the ban because they realized it was unfair to just ban someone with those circumstances, however he was given a lot of warnings, which seems to have been effetive because his stream appears to have died and his match history is nearly empty, i´d assume he's nearly quit lol because he couldn't get his way.

Did you ever watch the Nunu guy play on his stream? He consistently insulted his own team for questioning him and if his botlaner, be it a mage or marksman, lost their lane then they were effectively retarded since he had explained that he would jungle and they would have to win 1v2.

And he was feeding his ass of a lot too, he presented glorified clips of someone on his team getting fed while he "helped" with nunu slows....while still feeding.

But because he was "helpful" and got 10-20 assists it didn't matter than he had like +15 deaths in a 30 minutes game, that his team was winning.

But usual he invaded, failed miserably and died repeatedly the very picture of a troll inting.

But he justified it with "since i am no longer worth gold i can afford risky strategies".

....

The guy was a complete ass, he gave absolutely 0 fks about his team and essentially played singleplayer and forced his team to try and play with him or watch him feed his ass of until they lost.

Good riddance he got warned and forced to stop for the most part.

3TWarriorAug 5, 20171 votes

I won't deny that it isn't a fun experience to solo bottom lane, but the guy has been to challenger and it shows...

heck, even in diamond some of his allies aren't paying enough attention to the map and don't respond with pings of their own

I'd be skeptical, but I think given the guy's reputation and the fact that his plays allow the allied jungler nearly complete freedom, it would be easy to coordinate a gank from them and even easier the earlier game these metas become

LeetriAug 5, 20173 votes

Didn't he have a terrible winrate with "support" Nunu? The reason he was high rank was because he won his top or jungle Nunu games, but on "support" he had like 30% win rate.

3TWarriorAug 5, 20172 votes

I thought that he "only" played support nunu for the reasons he stated, that when nunu jungles, it leaves gold unaccounted for in his own jungle because he would always be chasing the opponent and objectives

it's much more effectively stated in his "Roaming Support FAQ" on https://www.twitch.tv/itslevi

ThefrostyvikingAug 5, 20172 votes

Did you ever actually watch him play? What he did? I sat straight through 10 games watching.

He lost 6 of those, handing out his ass feeding like a free soup kitchen ._.

He´s start the games taking his own junglers red if possible, then he´d invade the other side´s blue or try to gank mid.

If red wasn't possible then he´d start at krugs, which took an age and he even had to recall sometimes because lvl 1 nunu doesn't clear well.

In all the 6 games that he lost which i watched he then ran right into the enemy jungler and straight up died because he tried to fight 1v1.

In the remaining 4 he won he did well 2 games and didn't feed and his strategy even seemed to work somewhat.

But in the other 2 he still fed his ass of however his team carried him so hard it didn't even matter.

In the meanwhile the enemy team would dive his botlaner 2v1 or even 3v1 because Nunu had literally 0 threat lvl and his own jungler comparatively behind because nunu fed the other jungler.

I have no idea how the hell he got to challenger, i am willing to bet he just got lucky and got carried because his performance was miserable to watch for someone supposed to be so good.

LeonerdoAug 4, 20174 votes

Hmm, yeah, that's some pretty damning evidence. I wonder though, how autonomous each region is, when it comes to player behavior. Maybe it's just more lax in Korea?

I mean yeah, 100% inexcusable in NA. But it's still just 1 edge case, in a region that is maybe not beholden to the same standards we hold. So I'm not going decry Riot's entire player behavior department over it.

So uh, I guess put me in the Riot Defender group. But seriously, I think we'd all like some more information on this case (preferable from Rito themselves).

DunkinNoobsAug 5, 20173 votes

Cowsep isn't kidding when he says you literally can't get banned on the Korean server. This here is all the proof you need.

TempistAug 5, 20173 votes

And people wonder why so many players complain constantly about trolls. Perhaps it's because for all practical purposes, trolling goes completely unpunished. Even ridiculously blatant trolling.

Well done Riot.

I can't really understand what the player behavior team is doing. At work, having these kind of outliers exist would get you fired instantly, and for cause.

6KEMBE4ORBAAug 5, 20172 votes

There are still many delusionals here on the Boards that will tell you that everything is fine/anecdotal evidence/etc and that the banning system works and nitpick/derail the thread - recent example is this thread of guy that lost intentionally 250 games:

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/1E9VecaA-a-guide-to-what-gets-a-permanent-ban-and-what-doesnt?comment=000d0002000000000000000100000000

Chaos Milk TeaAug 4, 20172 votes

Really expected a picture of Trundle.

FighterA236Aug 5, 20172 votes

They got banned when they reached front page on reddit. Nice "instant feedback system" rito, lmao

One Ashe OnOct 8, 20171 votes

I swear banning system is lacking.

emanon dupitsJul 6, 20181 votes

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Posting this on behalf of RossBoomsocks, and why the current report system is completely flawed and needs to be fixed.

no point just stop spending money on riot and their products until such time as they fix it.

rBrLTobiasJan 25, 20201 votes

Sorry I'm a little late to the party but I just wanted to say that I see a lot of people complaining about no ban, yet no one seems to be thinking about what happens after someone is banned. Do you think after someone is banned they move on? Or do you think they come back more toxic than ever? Do you think these are the first accounts of the two discussed in the video? Or do you think they got banned for something at some point, or even several times, and this is just their latest (yes I realize this thread is 2 years old) endeavor? Do you think when someone's hate intensifies they move on or do you think they just find new and more subtle ways of achieving their goals? A lot of questions there, you don't really need to answer them as much as you need to ask yourselves what it is you are actually achieving by banning someone. As bad as it sounds the best thing to actually do when someone is trolling your game is to completely ignore them no matter how obvious or infuriating it is. When you think about it you don't even need to write "report xxx" or "xxx you are reported", you achieve nothing by doing so other than giving them exactly what they are after, your attention and your mood... I can testify to that as I have spent years now absolutely obliterating people's games and there is nothing more boring than the ones where the chat is non existent, or even worse, have teammates writing me forgiving comments. In truth all you achieve by banning someone is forcing them into more subtle and hence more toxic trolling. After being banned 20-30 times over the years I'm at the point where I come off as the most childish and naive person you have ever met in league. All the time and energy that otherwise would have been spent refining my gameplay and tactics instead have gone into refining the subtleness of my toxicity, and believe me you have no idea how refined it is, just in 2017 I ruined the game for around 27000+ people considering there are 9 in each game and I ruined 3000+. And I even managed to do so on only one account! I'm so proud of that! You don't even get to say that we at least have to lvl up a new account. I just get them off ebay, 10€, cheap af... Use your brains tards.