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"How can Bjergson dodge so many skillshots?" askes Jatt.

blueberrypancake··32 votes·3,321 views

Answer: He's playing Zed

Quote from Jatt, week 8 Day 2 TSM vs CLG

41 Comments

Droogzy18 votes

He dodged a charm and a super mega death rocket, by walking, had nothing to do with playing Zed.

Don't get me wrong, I hate Zed for personal reasons, but there's a reason why Bjergson is considered to be one of the best midlaners, his mechanics, foresight and knowledge of the game is just better then most in the LCS.

He was also able to dominate due to Lulu falling behind so bad, it was so bad, she had to buy a triple Doran's ring for Christ sake.

And for the person saying Zed was the only reason why they won, due to having to itemize against him solely, you do realize the person playing that champion is the biggest carry of their team, right? He could have done something completely stupid like Yorick Mid-lane and they would have itemized against him all the same.

ALthaGreat3 votes

Man you must really like Bjerg.

Droogzy11 votes

{quoted}

Man you must really like Bjerg.

I actually heavily dislike him, he's afraid to try new things outside of safe meta picks and such a bore to watch, you can pretty much guarantee he's going to pick either LeBlanc or Zed if not banned. But nonetheless, credit is due where it is, he's a good mid laner.

blueberrypancake4 votes

This is why I like PowerOfEvil

Dat Ap Kog'Maw

Droogzy2 votes

{quoted}

This is why I like PowerOfEvil

Dat Ap Kog'Maw

I loved the Cass and Yorick combo PowerOfEvil and Viz (I can't spell his name) ran, so fun to watch! That's the type of stuff I wanna see haha.

Keane from Gravity is another fun one to watch in the mid lane, Urgot this past week, I still remember his Hecarim game against a Ziggs, while his team lost, he did realllllly well.

blueberrypancake3 votes

That's why I love mid of the pack teams, they actually take risks

GV and UOL are probably my two favorite teams.

I just wish for another Donger from YoungBuck

junglerboy161 votes

That one Heimer game from Youngbuck was amazing... I wish they kept doing it.

blueberrypancake1 votes

They played it twice actually

junglerboy161 votes

WHAT? I must have missed it... I'm going to go sift through to find the second one now...

Yxgl222HaX1 votes

THIS. This is why i love watching UOL games even though i mostly prefer cloud 9 games. (seeing sneaky dodge crap tons of skill shots is always fun) Their games are just so action packed and fun to watch. That UOL game where they played fnatic and defended their nexus TWICE by the skin of their teeth, then won, that game had me bouncing in my seat. That is the reason i watch lcs right there

Linthe1 votes

{quoted}

I actually heavily dislike him, he's afraid to try new things outside of safe meta picks and such a bore to watch, you can pretty much guarantee he's going to pick either LeBlanc or Zed if not banned. But nonetheless, credit is due where it is, he's a good mid laner.

  1. This isn't even "quite" true. I take it you missed the Cass pick? And he plays Ahri at least as much as those 2.

  2. This is true for every team at LCS. Hai has played Zed 12,000 times unless he is banned. Bot will be Sivir/Jinx/Graves/Corki and Janna/Annie/Morg/Leona/Thresh. JG will be Sej/Rek/Vi/Nid/Lee

2 is why the UrGod pick was just so badassed. (And Yasuo as well despite the fact that it was a complete bomb in game,)

Droogzy1 votes
  1. This isn't even "quite" true. I take it you missed the Cass pick? And he plays Ahri at least as much as those 2.

  2. This is true for every team at LCS. Hai has played Zed 12,000 times unless he is banned. Bot will be Sivir/Jinx/Graves/Corki and Janna/Annie/Morg/Leona/Thresh. JG will be Sej/Rek/Vi/Nid/Lee

2 is why the UrGod pick was just so badassed. (And Yasuo as well despite the fact that it was a complete bomb in game,)

I should probably have been more specific, he generally does not stray from meta picks often, Ahri and Cass are both considered to be safe Midlane choices, though Cass isn't played quite as much as Ahri.

This isn't me trying to necessarily call out Bjerg and I apologize if it comes off this way, I find pretty much every team and their midlaner to be boring, Hai included, most midlaners won't try to play new picks that are outside comfort zones, understandably so, since midlane is arguably the most important position.

If you pick a weird champion and it doesn't work, your team is pretty much boned. Bjergson is probably the most valuable mid laner to his team, which doesn't give him much leeway with experimentation.

UoL and Gravity (Specifically Keane) are my favorite teams to watch personally for good reasons, they actually try to use new ideas constantly.

A better way to say this would be that out of any midlaner, I consider Bjergson to be the one to be the least innovative midlaner, Hai a close second. But that's not necessarily his fault, the amount of pressure on him every game is insane.

He's going to stick with safe picks no matter what. I could see any other midlaner maybe considering doing some off picks. But Bjergson though, I just can't picture him doing that.

There are very few meta picks that I genuinely enjoy watching players use, one funny enough being DoubleLift's Jinx, don't know why, but I love watching him play her.

Hell I actually miss the days of the Yasuo compositions, those matches are incredibly fun to watch as they try to set up their Yasuo to decimate the other team, it would be pretty cool to see that come back, but he's such a balance nightmare ATM.

It was pretty funny watching a team first pick the Yasuo and just seeing the reaction from the other team as they knew what was coming.

Piglet played Vayne in his last match, it was pretty fun to watch, I used to love watching Uzi from Starhorn playing that champion, hopefully with this meta shift, we might see more Vayne coming out.

blueberrypancake1 votes

GV and OUL worlds this year :)

NeoDeimos1 votes

Afraid to try new things? I know Lissandra's a meta pick now, but most teams run her top, Bjerg takes her mid. Apparently you didn't catch the game against Liquid when he picked Cass, or the stomp against CJ Entus when he took Viktor. How about the penta he got last year on KARMA?!?

Afraid to branch out? Please...

TheNameIsJohnny5 votes

ZED single handily won them the game. EVERYONE had to build defensively against ONE champ. Thus, screwing CLG's damage output. It is ridiculous.

Once you give Assassins' with a HIGH DAMAGE, HIGH MOBILITY, it will remove any risk in High risk high reward to HIGH HIGH REWARD.

blueberrypancake7 votes

I personally think camping Lulu is what won them that game, which allowed Corki and Zed to carry.

Tentacle Love2 votes

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I personally think camping Lulu is what won them that game, which allowed Corki and Zed to carry.

It probably had something to do with Zed having around double the CS of the lane opponent.

NinjaToad992 votes

Whaaat? The champions had to build defense so they didn't die to the assassin whose whole purpose is to melt-the-highest-damage-targets-around-as-quickly-as-possible-and-because-he-builds-full-damage-almost-every-game-he-will-actually-do-that-fairly-efficiently?

WHAT AN OUTRAGE!

Seriously, I hate going against Zed as much as the next guy, but this complaining really gets on my nerves.

BeatzBoyFTW5 votes

Enemy: Omg y u so noob? Srsly, practice some more, then come fight me. Me: Ur Riven....


Enemy: Omg, plz, tank? U cant even do your job right, getting shred in less than 2 seconds. Me: Ur Vayne....


Enemy: Sigh, why the Darius pick? He's not a strong meta pick right now, after all that LCS shiet. Pls, revise your mistakes and then come again. Me: LCS? Ur Teemo.....

blueberrypancake1 votes

I don't get why your downvoted

Auryiel4 votes

TBH it was more CLG not predicting at all where he'd go

DarkenedSoul4202 votes

And then you watch the game gravity just played against tsm...that urgot counter pick thoo

item 3110 for the winn

blueberrypancake3 votes

4 Frozen Heart dream

Bunny FuFuu: I wasn't going to complete it

I got sad.

IJN Taiyou1 votes

{quoted}

And then you watch the game gravity just played against tsm...that urgot counter pick thoo

item 3110 for the winn

I don't even know why people think Urgot beat Zed in lane. He only forced Zed out of lane once and died twice in lane phase.

Zed dodged a mega death rocket (really easy to dodge, I think DL just messed up the skillshot) but there was no excuse for the charm to miss. I would've hit Zed had I shot the charm because I knew he'd duck towards his team.

KDA Michael1 votes

YEah Bjergsen DOMINATED and OUTPLAYED the laning phase against Urgot. GV just built VERY smart and the other players on TSM were not able to pick up the slack once all those item 3110 were in play to stop Zed

The Blue Rooster2 votes

It didn't look to me like he dodged the charm at all. He had to cut back in that direction no matter what or else he would be caught by CLG, he would have made that turn if the Charm wasn't coming just the same. Link just didn't realize that.

BallisticMouse2 votes

I watched a very high view/like video of "Bjerg's best" and it was purely champions like Zed, LeBlanc, etc.

blueberrypancake2 votes

If he is a master of mobile, outplay focused assassins that's fine by me. I just wish he got more Karma pentakills.

Champlooge2 votes

DId you evan watch the game? I mean he orb walked in and out of the bush, dodged a rocket without shadow but guessed where it would fire I mean. Comon srsly?! QQ about zed, when it was bjerg? I mean he could have been poppy and still would have been able to dodge those. Please watch the game than the comments at the end.

blueberrypancake1 votes

I posted this 30 seconds after Jatt made that comment. Bjerg needed two shadows in that fight, one of which was used to juke during that play, there are other characters he could play that could do that, but I think Jatt's question was a little too rhetorical.

blueberrypancake1 votes

i do think it was a good play, but that question could be worded better

Cindikle1 votes

Was expecting something to do with east coast servers.

Unsure how I feel about this.

blueberrypancake1 votes

I just personally thought it was a rhetorical question

Xys1 votes

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blueberrypancake2 votes

I was just trying to funny

I personally think your being a little outrageous Taric

Xys1 votes

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SpongebobIsLife1 votes

this is unfortunately true...

blueberrypancake8 votes

As a former Kayle player, I'm fine with Zed and how he is. It is a very mechanical champion that works off of outplays (which is something that should happen in MOBA's)

When people had a problem with Yasuo, I would pick Annie mid and most of those problems were gone. (This isn't some noob thing, Pr0ly a former pro player, now a coach for H2K, used this counterpick competetively)

Yes I am in Silver, but I get how the game works.

TheNameIsJohnny2 votes

{quoted}

As a former Kayle player, I'm fine with Zed and how he is. It is a very mechanical champion that works off of outplays (which is something that should happen in MOBA's)

When people had a problem with Yasuo, I would pick Annie mid and most of those problems were gone. (This isn't some noob thing, Pr0ly a former pro player, now a coach for H2K, used this counterpick competetively)

Yes I am in Silver, but I get how the game works.

No you dont LOL.

blueberrypancake3 votes

After looking at your match history quickly, you seem to be a Ziggs main with a very good win rate, so I respect your opinion. I do believe that there is much more I need to learn in order to truly know how the game works, but I say for the amount I've played (which is about 250+ hours since URF, which is when I began to play) I know quite a lot.

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

Ok so Zed can dodge how many with his kit... 2? 3 with Flash? How many did he dodge for someone to comment on it?

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