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It is so funny when casters comment every ardent censer application at times: "Look at this Janna ult applying ardent censer", "Look at the damage with ardent censer", "Taking that baron with ardent censer".
100% appearance in winning teams, clearly deserves the MVP title.
Enraged Piglet4 votesit probably has 100% appearance in losing teams as well.
BigBellBrute2 votes[{quoted}](name=Enraged Piglet,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=T8nOMOjU,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-06T16:25:18.926+0000)
it probably has 100% appearance in losing teams as well.
I know of one losing team that didn't have one. There may be more. There may not be.
FooDang3 votesJanna ult with on entire team gives the team a 4-5k gold edge in combat stats. That is significant in an all in.
Niaphim4 votesI'm not against mentioning key items, casters should tell about item breakpoints and their value in teamfights, but when it is excessive and overly frequent it becomes funny.
FooDang3 votesYea, its circumstantial scripts that the analyzer castors use to talk about when team fights are not happening. Since the same champs and items are played often, they will repeat a lot of the interactions because they need filler.
Jaspers3 votesBest thing I heard was a commentator saying "Ardent Censor ADC".
... like it's their item.
LongSh4dows1 votesBest thing I heard was a commentator saying "Ardent Censor ADC".
... like it's their item.
Next Support Champ will just be a backpack the ADC wears.
ChompyWulf2 votesIMT's win over Fnatic breaks the meme. Rekkles had a huge lead and often had his Lulu in his pocket, but play making from everyone on Immortals won that match. Great plays can beat stat checks.
Niaphim1 votesIt doesn't though. Both teams had a strong team fighting oriented adcs (Kog and Twitch), both supports (Janna and Lulu) had censer and redemption; Olleh had locket in addition to these two items. It was an incredibly close game until Rekkles literally went 1v5 without any support from his team until he got focused by the entire IMT team. IMT clearly deserved this win, but if not for the throw, I can't say for sure who would have won. Item and team composition wise my point still holds.
ChompyWulf2 votesBoth teams had hypercarry adcs. Both had shield supports with Censer. However... That didn't affect Flame's Jayce split pushes, especially the epic duel with Broxah. Censer didn't have a deciding effect on Xmithie twice securing Baron. Also didn't come into play any time Pobelter made great roams or used the Wall effectively. These guys made outplays that kept the censer rushed support and ADC from carrying Fnatic to a win.
Niaphim1 votesOh, now I see what you mean. Yes, you are right, and this is why I said IMT deserved this win.
But still, I truly believe that if some team doesn't pick a similar (hypercarry+censer) botlane, that would put them at a huge disadvantage, and other win conditions besides botlane would be problematic to achieve.
ChompyWulf1 votesWhile that may be true, it's still a bit of an exaggeration to call a core item in the meta the MVP. Just my two cents though.
Walmart Porn1 votesYa its funny how everyone thinks adc's are the problem but if you deleted ardent from the game things like janna would disapear and be replaced by alistair braum naut thresh and so on. And then it would be mid lane oriented instead of funneling so many resources around bot lane. Without ardent trist would not be the most picked champion in the game and twitch wouldnt be as popular and youd actually see other things like caitlyn.