@Riot Save the big changes for AFTER worlds

Tik115·Oct 25, 2015·11 votes·944 views

Riot has always forced big changes right before worlds and this year was no exception, remember last year when changes to Alistar near to worlds resulted in him suddenly becoming a massive pick screwing everthing? what about the year before with the Trinity force and Corki changes making him shoot up to pick or ban? or how about this year with a Fiora rework AND the juggernauts right on the cusp of worlds?

Riot needs to save the big changes and the big reworks to AFTER the worlds patch, all it does is skewer the championship, pretty much 2 of the 3 bans each team have isn't about "Oh we need to ban out this players champion" but "Oh we need to ban out this champion because its too strong"

Seriously this Juggernaut crap should of been a Pre-season thing not a "2 patches before worlds" thing

For proclaiming "Oh we won't do something like we did in Season 3 to Corki ever again" they sure have done something like they did with Season 3 Corki again.

8 Comments

DarkOne696Oct 25, 20151 votes

You do know that worlds is playing on a older version of League right? Like 5.18, there is no aggro bars on the jungle camps etc.

Tik115Oct 25, 20152 votes

yes BUT when did the Fiora rework happen? When did the Juggernauts come out? 2 - 3 patches ago, ONE MONTH before the Worlds patch if it was during the mid season like between Spring and Summer split then that be fine they'd have time to balance them out but no they threw huge changes one month and 2 patches from everything being locked in for worlds which was almost identical to how it went in Season 3 and 4 (Season 3 it was the final worlds patch itself which had the big change)

And no the nerfs between those 2-3 patches clearly WEREN'T substantial except for Skarner and Garen since Fiora, Gangplank, Darius and Mords were pretty much pick or ban the entire worlds and even on the live patch are still pretty much still pick or ban.

Weiner the PoohOct 25, 20151 votes

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yes BUT when did the Fiora rework happen? When did the Juggernauts come out? 2 - 3 patches ago, ONE MONTH before the Worlds patch if it was during the mid season like between Spring and Summer split then that be fine they'd have time to balance them out but no they threw huge changes one month and 2 patches from everything being locked in for worlds which was almost identical to how it went in Season 3 and 4 (Season 3 it was the final worlds patch itself which had the big change)

And no the nerfs between those 2-3 patches clearly WEREN'T substantial except for Skarner and Garen since Fiora, Gangplank, Darius and Mords were pretty much pick or ban the entire worlds and even on the live patch are still pretty much still pick or ban.

fioras pick ban rate doesnt exceed 30% which isnt that bad.

Tik115Oct 25, 20151 votes

Even then, that stills leaves Darius, Mords and gangplank as must picks or must bans, with those changes being so huge so close to worlds its warped the world championship to "we HAVE to ban the OPs" instead of "banning this players best champ" and hell just cause Fiora doesn't exceed 30% pick ban she has a near 60% win rate in the games she was picked its just most top lane players don't pick the carry top laners

SeryOct 25, 20151 votes

I dont see anything wrong, I mean, last season basketball changed to an oval ball a day before the playoffs.

I agree with you 100% though, how does any serious esports proponent expect large audiences (league players aside) from embracing esports seriously when Riot can pull shit like this every season.

This will be the last season I watch Riot controlled esports. I'm going to stick to Smash.

Tik115Oct 25, 20152 votes

things is Real sports and Esports can't be compared change-wise, changing the ball in a sport is not similer to changing a champion since the ball is a constant, its the objective where as a champion is a variable which with the changes made Riot has forced to make at the forefront.

Worlds should of been about taking and banning picks from other teams, not letting their best champions through to prevent Gangplank,Darius and mords being picked

Jungle Lux GodOct 25, 20151 votes

It depends on the context.

If it's done the patch on/before worlds, it's not okay. Teams don't have time to prepare for strategies that might come up based around those kinds of characters.

Increase that patch difference to 2-3 patches and it becomes reasonable to do those kinds of changes because players have time to prepare and Riot has at least 1-2 patches to balance anything that breaks the game. If anything, it shakes up the game enough that players need to develop new strategies, but still gives players enough time to adapt to new strategies.

They said they wouldn't do something like they did with Season 3 Corki ever again, and so far they have kept that promise.

DarkOne696Oct 26, 20151 votes

I see it as this. We are expected to adjust to the changes on day one of the patch. These are professionals, this is their life. If they cannot adapt to a patch in time then maybe they don't deserve that title.